Re: [Sip-implementors] pLs take me off of you list

2010-09-22 Thread IƱaki Baz Castillo
2010/9/22 R M : > pLs take me off of you list Fail. You must do it. Inspect the headers of any mail in this maillist. ___ Sip-implementors mailing list Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/cucslists/listinfo/sip-implemento

Re: [Sip-implementors] why Do we need a 3 way handshake for INVITE at all?

2010-09-22 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Inline On 9/22/2010 7:18 AM, abhishek chattopadhyay wrote: > Hi Implementors, > > In 3261 the re-transmission of INVITE is stopped by 1xx responses. So to > stop the re-trnasmission of 200 OK, ACK is sent. > (Albait it would be worth considering that ACK is used for a lot of other > purposes.) > >

Re: [Sip-implementors] Call HOLD from both sides

2010-09-22 Thread Paul Kyzivat
goutam, This situation is discussed in section 5.3 of: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-sipping-sip-offeranswer-13.txt More inline On 9/22/2010 5:45 AM, goutam kumar wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to implement a VOIP call between two endpoints. I'm in a doubt. > > Say Alice and Bob are in a call.

[Sip-implementors] pLs take me off of you list

2010-09-22 Thread R M
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Re: [Sip-implementors] why Do we need a 3 way handshake for INVITE atall?

2010-09-22 Thread Verma Sunil
Hi Abhishek, Can you elaborate more for three way handshakes and which part of three way handshakes you think is not required? 100 Trying can be generated even for Re-INVITE if the processing of the same is going to take more than 200ms. I don't think there is any such restriction in RFC for this

Re: [Sip-implementors] why Do we need a 3 way handshake for INVITE at all?

2010-09-22 Thread abhishek chattopadhyay
Thanks Frank, But what is so special about the invite and re-invite. Why not any other method in the protocol has this fecility? Abhishek. -Original Message- From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu [mailto:sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Frank

Re: [Sip-implementors] why Do we need a 3 way handshake for INVITE at all?

2010-09-22 Thread Frank Shearar
On 2010/09/22 13:18, abhishek chattopadhyay wrote: > Hi Implementors, > > In 3261 the re-transmission of INVITE is stopped by 1xx responses. So to > stop the re-trnasmission of 200 OK, ACK is sent. > (Albait it would be worth considering that ACK is used for a lot of other > purposes.) > > Further

[Sip-implementors] why Do we need a 3 way handshake for INVITE at all?

2010-09-22 Thread abhishek chattopadhyay
Hi Implementors, In 3261 the re-transmission of INVITE is stopped by 1xx responses. So to stop the re-trnasmission of 200 OK, ACK is sent. (Albait it would be worth considering that ACK is used for a lot of other purposes.) Further form 3261 only, it is clear that for other methods the request w

Re: [Sip-implementors] Call HOLD from both sides

2010-09-22 Thread Shanbhag, Somesh (NSN - IN/Bangalore)
Goutam, Then I think there is some *wrong implementation* in Alice's phone. If its off-hold, its understood that one wants to have two-way media. If Alice is sending sendonly again (pressuming it to be off-hold) then its wrong. Please do check with the Alice's phone vendor! Regards, Somesh

Re: [Sip-implementors] Call HOLD from both sides

2010-09-22 Thread goutam kumar
Hi, Yes, when Alice takes the call off-hold the INVITE will have "sendrecv" in it. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Shanbhag, Somesh (NSN - IN/Bangalore) < somesh.shanb...@nsn.com> wrote: > Goutam, > > Normally the Step-II shall not happen. It could happen, if Bob's phone > doesn't want to have o

Re: [Sip-implementors] Call HOLD from both sides

2010-09-22 Thread Verma Sunil
Slight modification as I mentioned "sendrecv" at the at line instead if "receive-only". -Original Message- From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu [mailto:sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Verma Sunil Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 3:53 PM To: g

Re: [Sip-implementors] Call HOLD from both sides

2010-09-22 Thread Verma Sunil
Hi, As per offer answer RFC for media attribute "send-only" response can be "receive-only" or "inactive". The choice is at the application to decide what needs to be done. >From the call scenario I think response should be "inactive" as BOB has put Alice on hold and has not yet retrieve the call.

Re: [Sip-implementors] Call HOLD from both sides

2010-09-22 Thread Shanbhag, Somesh (NSN - IN/Bangalore)
Goutam, Normally the Step-II shall not happen. It could happen, if Bob's phone doesn't want to have one way media or RTCP packets - in this case it can make the media totally inactive. May be to save some bandwidth :) but there will be SBC's midway of the call which can detect the idle media an

[Sip-implementors] Call HOLD from both sides

2010-09-22 Thread goutam kumar
Hi, I'm trying to implement a VOIP call between two endpoints. I'm in a doubt. Say Alice and Bob are in a call. Now, STEP I Alice puts Bob on hold. i.e. INVITE (RTP-sendonly) Alice -> Bob 200 OK (RTP-recvonly) <--