[Sip-implementors] In-dialog (?) request ignoring route set

2011-01-04 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Hello and Happy New Year all sip-implementors! We had an interesting question on the Asterisk developer mailing list last year. Assume that a dialog was set up in an INVITE transaction between two UAs and a proxy in between. The proxy added a record-route so the two UAs now has a route set

Re: [Sip-implementors] In-dialog (?) request ignoring route set

2011-01-04 Thread Shanbhag, Somesh (NSN - IN/Bangalore)
I think B party must terminate with 400 Invalid Request and send BYE to the existing dialog. It might be someone is snooping as well in the network. -Somesh -Original Message- From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu [mailto:sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu]

Re: [Sip-implementors] In-dialog (?) request ignoring route set

2011-01-04 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
2011/1/4 Olle E. Johansson o...@edvina.net: Now one UA sends a SIP request directly between the UA's instead of following the route set for the dialog. - Should this request be dropped? - Should it be accepted and processed? - Shout it be responded to with an error message - if so, which

[Sip-implementors] any SIP soft-phone supported with MSRP??

2011-01-04 Thread voice freak
Hi All, is there any SIP soft phone and application server supported with MSRP? other than BLINK. any response is highly appreciated!! Thanks Sudhir ___ Sip-implementors mailing list Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu

Re: [Sip-implementors] SIP Call/Hold Scenario

2011-01-04 Thread Chandan Kumar
Hi ,   Thanks  for the responses. Even I thougt the same.   Lets say for the same case mean  for unholding the call , if we get Re-inivte with no SDp from B2BuA . How SIP entity should respond ( SIP entity is in Held state).   Does SIP entity should respond with the Current state with 200 ok

Re: [Sip-implementors] Multiple early media sessions within a same dialog

2011-01-04 Thread Nataraju A.B
Hi All, with in the same session, playing announcements is not allowed. There could be only on dialog established between UAC and UAS1(to_tag1). But there could be multiple dialogs established @ UAC due to UAS1, UAS2, but not by the same UAS. Sending diferent SDPs in multiple 1xx messages

Re: [Sip-implementors] SIP Call/Hold Scenario

2011-01-04 Thread Nataraju A.B
We should proceed with option-1. In this case Re-Invite with out SDP leads to delayed media negotiation... On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Chandan Kumar chandan_28...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi , Thanks for the responses. Even I thougt the same. Lets say for the same case mean for unholding the

[Sip-implementors] Re : any SIP soft-phone supported with MSRP??

2011-01-04 Thread Bossiel thioriguel
For Android: http://code.google.com/p/imsdroid/ For Windows: http://code.google.com/p/boghe/ --- En date de : Mar 4.1.11, voice freak t.sudhirku...@gmail.com a écrit : De: voice freak t.sudhirku...@gmail.com Objet: [Sip-implementors] any SIP soft-phone supported with MSRP?? À:

Re: [Sip-implementors] What is the use of port number in SIP-URI in FROM header?

2011-01-04 Thread Brett Tate
my idea is to omit the port number from all the From header in outbound SIP request. Do you think this will be problematic? As others have indicated, RFC 3261 indicates that port within To/From are not allowed and SHOULD be ignored. Because RFC 2543 allowed port within To/From, it might be

Re: [Sip-implementors] What is the use of port number in SIP-URI in FROM header?

2011-01-04 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
2011/1/4 Brett Tate br...@broadsoft.com: I'm not sure how the SIP working group intended RFC 3261 section 19.1 Table 1 paragraph indicating SHOULD ignore any disallowed components to apply to section 19.1.4's URI comparison rules. Fuly unclear. We could give our opinnion here, and any other

Re: [Sip-implementors] In-dialog (?) request ignoring route set

2011-01-04 Thread Worley, Dale R (Dale)
From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu [sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Olle E. Johansson [...@edvina.net] Now one UA sends a SIP request directly between the UA's instead of following the route set for the

Re: [Sip-implementors] In-dialog (?) request ignoring route set

2011-01-04 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
2011/1/4 Worley, Dale R (Dale) dwor...@avaya.com: I am surprised that any UA performs the checks necessary to determine that this has happened.  But if it discovers the problem, it should log it somewhere for human interpretation. Humm, I cannot imagine how a IMS mobile can warn my mother

Re: [Sip-implementors] In-dialog (?) request ignoring route set

2011-01-04 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Its not really a responsibility of the recipient to check this, at least in straightforward cases. How would it know that the proxy has been bypassed? If the request arrives, and has the correct form, then I would expect the UAS to process the request. To detect the problem it would have to

Re: [Sip-implementors] SIP Call/Hold Scenario

2011-01-04 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Look at the offeranswer draft for a discussion of this. While your option 1 will work in some cases, it won't always work. Specifically, if both sides put the call on hold, then there will be no way to get off hold. The solution is to always offer the directionality your end wants, without

Re: [Sip-implementors] What is the use of port number in SIP-URI in FROM header?

2011-01-04 Thread Paul Kyzivat
IMO, if a UA is given a URI to call, it generally has no business messing with it in any way. Removing the port is altering the URI, and should only be done by something in the domain of the URI that is familiar with the policies for construction of URIs within that domain. If the UA is

Re: [Sip-implementors] What is the use of port number in SIP-URI in FROM header?

2011-01-04 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
On 01/04/2011 03:30 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote: IMO, if a UA is given a URI to call, it generally has no business messing with it in any way. Removing the port is altering the URI, and should only be done by something in the domain of the URI that is familiar with the policies for construction of

Re: [Sip-implementors] What is the use of port number in SIP-URI in FROM header?

2011-01-04 Thread Pavesi, Valdemar (NSN - US/Irving)
Hello, The SIP recommendation tell us that the port must be present if it is not a default port (5060). INVITE sip:atcavolt...@10.48.6.189:1872;tgrp=CGR01REM;trunk-context=volte.com SIP/2.0 To:sip:atcavolt...@volte.com

Re: [Sip-implementors] What is the use of port number in SIP-URI in FROM header?

2011-01-04 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
2011/1/5 Pavesi, Valdemar (NSN - US/Irving) valdemar.pav...@nsn.com: Maybe the port (from ,to) can help to build the history of the call. If you remove , it tell me that UA had used the default port 5060 to originated the call , and it is not TRUE. Why should the UAC set as From URI port the

[Sip-implementors] SIP Soft Phone with IPSec Support

2011-01-04 Thread Bharat S
Hi all, Does any body know about SIP Soft Phone that supports IPSec? Thanks, Bharat ___ Sip-implementors mailing list Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/cucslists/listinfo/sip-implementors

Re: [Sip-implementors] SIP Soft Phone with IPSec Support

2011-01-04 Thread Alex Balashov
That's like asking if there is a SIP softphone that supports Ethernet. Go learn your OSI burrito. IPSec operates at a different layer of abstraction in the protocol stack than a VoIP application. It would not be IPSec-aware if used with IPSec. In that sense, all softphones support IPSec.

Re: [Sip-implementors] SIP Soft Phone with IPSec Support

2011-01-04 Thread Bharat S
Hey Alex, I know IPSec operates on different layers of protocol stack. But I am looking for any SIP soft phone that supports Headers for SIP Security. RFC 3329. So if any phone supports IPSec, should support the SIP Headers required for establishing Security Associations using

Re: [Sip-implementors] Multiple early media sessions within a same dialog

2011-01-04 Thread Harlin Dyvia Helina Sathianathan
Hi Nataraju, Thanks for your inputs. Sending different SDPs in multiple 1xx messages might be violating the offer-answer model, but if the first announcement is through reliable-1xx response and the subsequent announcement is with UPDATE, then I guess it should be technically right. Correct me

Re: [Sip-implementors] SIP Soft Phone with IPSec Support

2011-01-04 Thread Alex Balashov
On 01/04/2011 09:52 PM, Bharat S wrote: Hey Alex, I know IPSec operates on different layers of protocol stack. But I am looking for any SIP soft phone that supports Headers for SIP Security. RFC 3329. So if any phone supports IPSec, should support the SIP Headers required for establishing