Re: [Sip-implementors] Codec negotiation when incoming re-INVITE has no SDP

2016-01-19 Thread Brett Tate
Hi, Your conclusion appears to be a misinterpretation of SHOULD. I mention it because not following the SHOULD can have 3PCC related interoperability limitations. RFC 2119: "3. SHOULD This word, or the adjective "RECOMMENDED", mean that there may exist valid reasons in particular circumstances

Re: [Sip-implementors] Codec negotiation when incoming re-INVITE has no SDP

2016-01-19 Thread Brett Tate
Hi, The following are a few RFC snippets. As shown within RFC 3725 section 10.2, 3PCC is one of the users of re-INVITE without SDP. If a device does not support re-INVITE without SDP or doesn't offer all codecs that the UA is currently willing and able to use, it hinders interoperability during

Re: [Sip-implementors] Codec negotiation when incoming re-INVITE has no SDP

2016-01-19 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Just to elaborate - 3pcc is one of my touch stones. When considering any O/A behavior I always ask the question: will this do the right thing if 3pcc is being used? And remember, the receiver of an offerless invite doesn't *know* if 3pcc is in use - it had better assume that it might be,

Re: [Sip-implementors] Codec negotiation when incoming re-INVITE has no SDP

2016-01-19 Thread Paul Kyzivat
On 1/19/16 12:40 AM, Basu Chikkalli wrote: We have following two RFC references: Rfc3261 Sect 14.2 UAS Behaviour A UAS providing an offer in a 2xx (because the INVITE did not contain an offer) SHOULD construct the offer as if the UAS were making a brand new call, subject to the

Re: [Sip-implementors] Codec negotiation when incoming re-INVITE has no SDP

2016-01-19 Thread Ramesh Babu Kuppili
Hello Everyone, Based on the discussion so far I am convinced that we have to offer the list of codecs supported by UA and not the codec list previously negotiated. Thanks for clarifying. - ramesh On 1/19/2016 8:39 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote: On 1/19/16 12:40 AM, Basu Chikkalli wrote: We

Re: [Sip-implementors] Codec negotiation when incoming re-INVITE has no SDP

2016-01-19 Thread Paul Kyzivat
On 1/19/16 10:31 AM, Ramesh Babu Kuppili wrote: Hello Everyone, Based on the discussion so far I am convinced that we have to offer the list of codecs supported by UA and not the codec list previously negotiated. Ah, good! My job is done. :-) We have avoided having somebody else here asking