Re: [Sip-implementors] Is "received" and "rport" used in SIP TCP?

2008-07-25 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Viernes, 25 de Julio de 2008, Martin Hoffmann escribió: > Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > > But anyway, "received"/"rport" in TCP is completely useless in a > > transaction, > > don't you think? > > If you follow the layered modell very closely, the transaction layer > doesn't know about the connect

Re: [Sip-implementors] Is "received" and "rport" used in SIP TCP?

2008-07-25 Thread Nenad Milidrag
Yes, I think you can put it that way. Nenad -Original Message- From: Iñaki Baz Castillo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:15 AM To: Nenad Milidrag Cc: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Is "received" and "

Re: [Sip-implementors] Is "received" and "rport" used in SIP TCP?

2008-07-25 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Viernes, 25 de Julio de 2008, escribió: > I think you are forgetting that TCP connection from proxy to router is not > persistent and after it is lost server will not know where to forward > incoming call for the phone behind the NAT. However, if phone used rport > it will send its public ip/po

Re: [Sip-implementors] Is "received" and "rport" used in SIP TCP?

2008-07-24 Thread Nenad Milidrag
: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Is "received" and "rport" used in SIP TCP? El Jueves, 24 de Julio de 2008, Nenad Milidrag escribió: > Hi, > > I am pretty sure it is still useful in certain cases, for example, if you > have a NAT

Re: [Sip-implementors] Is "received" and "rport" used in SIP TCP?

2008-07-24 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Jueves, 24 de Julio de 2008, Brett Tate escribió: > I'm not very familiar with the rport RFC; however the following are a few > comments excluding rport support. > > My understanding is that the received is still used with TCP. Although not > explicitly mentioned, it is implied within rfc3261 s

Re: [Sip-implementors] Is "received" and "rport" used in SIP TCP?

2008-07-24 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Jueves, 24 de Julio de 2008, Nenad Milidrag escribió: > Hi, > > I am pretty sure it is still useful in certain cases, for example, if you > have a NAT and NAT device is not SIP aware. Using rport/received together > with you can get your public ip/port seen by the proxy and when > reregistering

Re: [Sip-implementors] Is "received" and "rport" used in SIP TCP?

2008-07-24 Thread Nenad Milidrag
To: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: [Sip-implementors] Is "received" and "rport" used in SIP TCP? Hi, I'm realizing that "received" and "rport" are completely useless in SIP TCP: - The client MUST reply using the existing conecction t

Re: [Sip-implementors] Is "received" and "rport" used in SIP TCP?

2008-07-24 Thread Brett Tate
bia.edu > Subject: [Sip-implementors] Is "received" and "rport" used in SIP TCP? > > Hi, I'm realizing that "received" and "rport" are completely > useless in SIP > TCP: > > - The client MUST reply using the existing conecction that

Re: [Sip-implementors] Is "received" and "rport" used in SIP TCP?

2008-07-24 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Thursday 24 July 2008 02:31:28 Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh) escribió: > RFC 3581 implies that these two are for UDP, though not explicitly called > out. Humm, but even if "received" and "rport" si useless in TCP, the RFC makes it mandatory to implement. :( -- Iñaki Baz Castillo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Sip-implementors] Is "received" and "rport" used in SIP TCP?

2008-07-23 Thread Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)
edu >Subject: [Sip-implementors] Is "received" and "rport" used in SIP TCP? > >Hi, I'm realizing that "received" and "rport" are completely >useless in SIP >TCP: > >- The client MUST reply using the existing conecction that >creates

[Sip-implementors] Is "received" and "rport" used in SIP TCP?

2008-07-23 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
Hi, I'm realizing that "received" and "rport" are completely useless in SIP TCP: - The client MUST reply using the existing conecction that creates the incoming request. So for now "received" and "rport" are not used at all. - If the connection fails during the reply then the UAS/proxy must per