Re: [Sip-implementors] Supported with replaces parameter is Mandatory to support REFER request

2014-10-30 Thread Paul Kyzivat
On 10/30/14 5:23 PM, Dale R. Worley wrote: From: Paul Kyzivat I disagree here. UA B would be irresponsible if it created an INVITE including a header field that it doesn't understand. Why would it be irresponsible? It's not UA B that's deciding to produce the INVITE, it's the element that

Re: [Sip-implementors] Supported with replaces parameter is Mandatory to support REFER request

2014-10-30 Thread Dale R. Worley
> From: Paul Kyzivat > I disagree here. UA B would be irresponsible if it created an INVITE > including a header field that it doesn't understand. Why would it be irresponsible? It's not UA B that's deciding to produce the INVITE, it's the element that sends the REFER to UA B that is deciding

Re: [Sip-implementors] Supported with replaces parameter is Mandatory to support REFER request

2014-10-28 Thread Paul Kyzivat
On 10/28/14 11:54 AM, Dale R. Worley wrote: From: Sourav Dhar Chaudhuri Actually my scenario is attended call transfer using REFER method. So here I want to transfer an attended call using REFER method. But the User agent B whom I want to send REFER request with the existi

Re: [Sip-implementors] Supported with replaces parameter is Mandatory to support REFER request

2014-10-28 Thread Dale R. Worley
> From: Sourav Dhar Chaudhuri > > Actually my scenario is attended call transfer using REFER > method. So here I want to transfer an attended call using > REFER method. But the User agent B whom I want to send REFER > request with the existing dialog information does not having

Re: [Sip-implementors] Supported with replaces parameter is Mandatory to support REFER request

2014-10-28 Thread Vivek Batra
Sourav, As Brett has mentioned previously and in your case, user agent B doesn't need to support replaces. Here I assume user agent B still supports Refer-To and hence can generate INVITE message. Further, transfer target must support replaces (received inside INVITE) to successfully get transferr

Re: [Sip-implementors] Supported with replaces parameter is Mandatory to support REFER request

2014-10-28 Thread Sourav Dhar Chaudhuri
Hi Vivek, Thanks for your response. Actually my scenario is attended call transfer using REFER method. So here I want to transfer an attended call using REFER method. But the User agent B whom I want to send REFER request with the existing dialog information does not having Support

Re: [Sip-implementors] Supported with replaces parameter is Mandatory to support REFER request

2014-10-28 Thread Brett Tate
> Is this mandatory to have support for replaces parameter to support > REFER request? No; RFC 3515 does not madate support for Replaces. And RFC 3861 section 2 indicates the following. "Although the Replaces header is frequently used in combination with the REFER [8] method as used in a

Re: [Sip-implementors] Supported with replaces parameter is Mandatory to support REFER request

2014-10-28 Thread Abhishek Gupta
hi Sourav, As far i mine understanding , Refer with replaces is not a mandatory. Regards Abhishek On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Vikas Dhiman wrote: > Hi Sourav, > > Are you talking about Replace-to or Refer-To? > > In Refer-To replaces is not a mandatory parameter. > > Cheers, > Vikas > > On

Re: [Sip-implementors] Supported with replaces parameter is Mandatory to support REFER request

2014-10-28 Thread Vikas Dhiman
Hi Sourav, Are you talking about Replace-to or Refer-To? In Refer-To replaces is not a mandatory parameter. Cheers, Vikas On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Sourav Dhar Chaudhuri < sourav_mi...@yahoo.co.in> wrote: > Hi, > Is this mandatory to have support for replaces parameter to support >

Re: [Sip-implementors] Supported with replaces parameter is Mandatory to support REFER request

2014-10-28 Thread Vivek Batra
Sourav, Please check RFC3891; This specification defines a new Require/Supported header option tag "replaces". UAs which support the Replaces header MUST include the "replaces" option tag in a Supported header field. UAs that want explicit failure notification if Replaces is not suppor

[Sip-implementors] Supported with replaces parameter is Mandatory to support REFER request

2014-10-28 Thread Sourav Dhar Chaudhuri
Hi, Is this mandatory to have support for replaces parameter to support REFER request? Means If Supported: replaces is not present in the User Agent side . Then that user will not support REFER request. The REFER request is containing Replaces-to header having Replaces parameter. So in th