Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim on the Mac App Store?

2012-01-24 Thread Chris
Looks like they also ripped off this app: http://paintbrush.sourceforge.net/screenshots/ In the App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/instapaint/id494189331 On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Jack Reis wrote: > EDITED FROM PREVIOUS

Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim on the Mac App Store?

2012-01-24 Thread Jack Reis
EDITED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE: Amen *to Peter Rich’s comments below* Also, I am a Marketing Projects Coordinator for a startup company and though we are not a software company I certainly would not mind being involved with some marketing of the Free, Legitimate version of the Skim software I know

Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim on the Mac App Store?

2012-01-24 Thread Jack Reis
Amen. -Jack On Jan 24, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Peter Rich wrote: > So, I've been a long-time Skim user and have experienced many ups and downs > with the software, but I have to keep coming back to it as it has long been > one of the best pdf annotation tools out there. Though I have found > Chris

Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim on the Mac App Store?

2012-01-24 Thread Peter Rich
I think we're pretty much saying the same thing. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > > On Jan 24, 2012, at 23:24, M A wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Christiaan Hofman > wrote: > >> You and Patrik either did not read what I wrote or don't understand it. > I

Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim on the Mac App Store?

2012-01-24 Thread Christiaan Hofman
On Jan 24, 2012, at 23:24, M A wrote: > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: >> You and Patrik either did not read what I wrote or don't understand it. I >> did not say he's not allowed to release his own copy. The fact is that he >> did not comply with the tiny little bit

Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim on the Mac App Store?

2012-01-24 Thread M A
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > You and Patrik either did not read what I wrote or don't understand it. I did > not say he's not allowed to release his own copy. The fact is that he did not > comply with the tiny little bit that he is legally forced to do. That > dis

[Skim-app-users] thanks first

2012-01-24 Thread W. Brent Swain
I just wanted to quickly weigh in on the discussion RE what developers give up as they contribute. I can't quickly follow all the ins an outs of the discussion, but it sounds like someone has tried to unscrupulously capitalize on the hard work of the Skim developers without rendering proper int

Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim on the Mac App Store?

2012-01-24 Thread Christiaan Hofman
You and Patrik either did not read what I wrote or don't understand it. I did not say he's not allowed to release his own copy. The fact is that he did not comply with the tiny little bit that he is legally forced to do. That disqualifies him completely in my eyes (even if he'd do so in the futu

Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim on the Mac App Store?

2012-01-24 Thread Peter Rich
The other thing I would do is to submit Skim to the App Store and have it there for free, basically undermining any sales PDF Reader might get through the App Store. -Peter- On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Peter Rich wrote: > Patrik, >I'm sorry, I didn't mean to accuse you of advocating th

Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim on the Mac App Store?

2012-01-24 Thread Peter Rich
Patrik, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to accuse you of advocating this behavior, but I clearly did that. Sorry. I was trying to explain why people would feel slighted by what has happened. Mark A is right, the license is very open and liberal, and if that's not the intent of the original developer

Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim on the Mac App Store?

2012-01-24 Thread James Harrison
On Jan 24, 2012, at 3:33 PM, Peter Rich wrote: > The reason that so many of us find this "developer's" behavior to be > despicable is that he clearly is trying to profit off of someone else's > hard-earned work without so much as a nod to those who did the work. The real issue here is not that

Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim on the Mac App Store?

2012-01-24 Thread Patrik Jonsson
Hi Peter, On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Peter Rich wrote: > The reason that so many of us find this "developer's" behavior to be > despicable is that he clearly is trying to profit off of someone else's > hard-earned work without so much as a nod to those who did the work.  Their > reason for

Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim on the Mac App Store?

2012-01-24 Thread M A
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Peter Rich wrote: > The reason that so many of us find this "developer's" behavior to be > despicable is that he clearly is trying to profit off of someone else's > hard-earned work without so much as a nod to those who did the work.  Their > reason for making the

Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim on the Mac App Store?

2012-01-24 Thread M A
I completely agree with Patrik on this. Yes, the software should be pulled while it's in violation of the license. But, once this person put's that copyright notice in it would be entirely hypocritical to try and stop him/her from redistributing (even for money). This is, of course, something that

Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim on the Mac App Store?

2012-01-24 Thread Peter Rich
So, I've been a long-time Skim user and have experienced many ups and downs with the software, but I have to keep coming back to it as it has long been one of the best pdf annotation tools out there. Though I have found Christiaan's replies to often be somewhat put-offish, I have also found him to

Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim on the Mac App Store?

2012-01-24 Thread Patrik Jonsson
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > There's also a small matter of behavior. The fact that, strictly speaking, > you;re allowed to does not mean you should take advantage of that. There's no > cost in asking, and he didn't. Not even in the most minimal and legally > req

Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim on the Mac App Store?

2012-01-24 Thread Alex Hamann
Agreed on all accounts. This kind of behavior is totally unacceptable because it preys on benevolent open-source-developers. On 24.01.2012, at 19:04, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > > On Jan 24, 2012, at 17:34, M A wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:42 AM, Fischlin Andreas >> wrote: >>> They

Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim on the Mac App Store?

2012-01-24 Thread Christiaan Hofman
On Jan 24, 2012, at 17:34, M A wrote: > On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:42 AM, Fischlin Andreas > wrote: >> They need to be stopped. Quickly. I looked into this but find it rather >> confusing. Does anyone know about an efficient channel to get to Apple and >> make sure the sale is immediately stop

Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim on the Mac App Store?

2012-01-24 Thread M A
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:42 AM, Fischlin Andreas wrote: > They need to be stopped. Quickly. I looked into this but find it rather > confusing. Does anyone know about an efficient channel to get to Apple and > make sure the sale is immediately stopped and no money paid to the criminals? > Woul