Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-11 Thread Nille
I feel stupid when i see that there's tar.bz2 and tar.gz So faad2 and faac are fine. a52dec is still wrong and no official release. Sorry for my mistake. /Nille ___ SlackBuilds-users mailing list SlackBuilds-users@slackbuilds.org http://lists.slackbuilds

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-11 Thread Nille
Sorry for the link that not supposed to be there. New toshiba laptop that i'm not used to so it got it to paste something where i didn't want it. I need to make it turn off tuchpad while i write. Or better sell the crap and get an new thinkpad. /Nille ___

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-11 Thread Nille
Well a source should only have one md5sum unless the change is done upstream and not released as an new version. (it happens but is totally wrong in my opinion) Or how should anyone know if it's correct? And the md5sum should match the official release. Or do you think otherwise? /Nille 2011/6/11

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-11 Thread Heinz Wiesinger
On Saturday 11 June 2011 22:59:47 Niklas "Nille" Åkerström wrote: > We can't have different md5sum for the same source on SBo and we should use > the official mirrors if possible. Actually, it's the other way around. We support multiple md5sums per download link, but only one download link per md

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-11 Thread Nille
After reading some of this thread (it was a bit much to read all) i checked the example handbrake. And i asked myself why doesn't handbrake use the original source mirrors and why doesn't the source have the same md5sum as the original. I do maintain a52dec, faac, faad2 and when i saw that the md5

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-10 Thread Jens Weber - Tuxane.com
Am 10.06.2011 01:18, schrieb Bradley D. Thornton: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On 06/09/2011 04:45 AM, Hac Er wrote: The question remains: How do administrators decide if the links they post are trustworthy? Well, since you're asking, I might as well get all socratic o

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-10 Thread markus reichelt
* Al wrote: > By reading any further you waive your rights to any and all seriousness. :-) This thread reminds me of a great quote: "I refuse to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death." --Tony Campolo -- left blank, right bald pgp0NlPtu8TIL.pgp Description: PGP signature __

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-10 Thread Al
find / -xdev -ctime -1 As root, redirect that command to a file before installing a package. Correction: "immediately after" installing a package, not before. But, what's to say that a trojan couldn't alter a file time or time stamp (which, in turn, would render that find command useless) __

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-10 Thread Al
Not to offend. But to have fun. If you're serious, then stop reading now!!! (except for the command at #3 below **is an actual command**) By reading any further you waive your rights to any and all seriousness. Now I'm starting to worry about the amount of electricity consumption needed by a

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-10 Thread Hac Er
> Third, at some point you're going to have to go to the grocery store. > I know you wouldn't trust getting there in a Ford Pinto with Firestone > 500's, but even if you walked, there are one legged crack mamas > waiting to stab you in the heart for another 20 dollar rock. You cannot live risk fre

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-09 Thread King Beowulf
On 06/09/2011 02:19 AM, Hac Er wrote: snip- This has made me wonder how secure is in fact the SlackBuild software. Sure, 99.9% of contributors are honorable people with pure motivations who work to enchance the whole Slackware comunity, but Black Hats do exist too out there.

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-09 Thread Bradley D. Thornton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On 06/09/2011 04:45 AM, Hac Er wrote: > > The question remains: How do administrators decide if the links they > post are trustworthy? Well, since you're asking, I might as well get all socratic on you too: "How do you know that the upstream

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-09 Thread Hac Er
Eric Hameleers wrote: > Niels is one of the admins of slackbuilds.org. > > If you do not trust his contributions, then there is the door ---> I think this is another version of a piece of wisdom I have already mentioned... It seems I did choose a bad example with Snort and Neils. Sorry if s

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-09 Thread gmartin
\\Greg On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Eric Hameleers (SBo) wrote: > Op 9-6-2011 18:02, gmartin schreef: > > > Enter Niels (thanks, btw, for lending us your reputation for this > > discussion). He is part of a much smaller and more well known to me > > group - the slackbuild contributers. > >

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-09 Thread Eric Hameleers (SBo)
Op 9-6-2011 18:02, gmartin schreef: > Enter Niels (thanks, btw, for lending us your reputation for this > discussion). He is part of a much smaller and more well known to me > group - the slackbuild contributers. Niels is one of the admins of slackbuilds.org. If you do not trust his contributio

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-09 Thread gmartin
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Klaatu wrote: > There's no need to follow links from SlackBuilds.org for anything more than > the SlackBuild itself, which you can audit and verify manually. Proceed to > your trusted site for the source code, grab the source, edit the SlackBuild > script as neede

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-09 Thread chris . abela
BlackBerry® from Vodafone -Original Message- From: Hac Er Sender: slackbuilds-users-bounces@slackbuilds.orgDate: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:01:04 To: Reply-To: "SlackBuilds.org Users List" Subject: Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:11:

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-09 Thread Hac Er
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 11:11:08 -0400 Klaatu wrote: > There's no need to follow links from SlackBuilds.org for anything > more than the SlackBuild itself, which you can audit and verify > manually. Proceed to your trusted site for the source code, grab the > source, edit the SlackBuild script as need

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-09 Thread Klaatu
There's no need to follow links from SlackBuilds.org for anything more than the SlackBuild itself, which you can audit and verify manually. Proceed to your trusted site for the source code, grab the source, edit the SlackBuild script as needed, and build. I guess the larger issue, really, as

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-09 Thread Niels Horn
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Bradley D. Thornton wrote: > > I don't think a black hat would have bothered me as much as a *red* one > Niels ;) > Red Hat? No I'd never use such a thing... :-) -- Niels ___ SlackBuilds-users mailing list SlackBuilds-us

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-09 Thread Chris ABELA
What procedure is taken in order to avoid this nightmare? Because, knowing SlackBuild.org has a very good reputation and its software works flawlessly most of the times, I asume you have some method to prevent Niel and his friends from taking over Slackware Universe. From: slackbuilds-users-bo

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-09 Thread Willy Sudiarto Raharjo
> I get your point. Anyways, even being true that you can track the source > by yourself, or modifiy the SlackBuild if necessary, the backgroud > question remains unanswered. > > SlackBuilds.org does not host the sources itself, but provides links > to them. I wouldn't trust some of these links if

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-09 Thread Ben Mendis
I'm sorry, but this is really nothing new. More wisdom from the ancients: http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/ken/trust.html On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 5:19 AM, Hac Er wrote: > Hello. > > I have discovered this piece of wisdom in the SlackBuilds site: > > "If you don't trust us to check the scripts for ma

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-09 Thread Hac Er
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:20:32 +0100 David Woodfall wrote: > > I understand the OP's point, but then someone could hack the server of > whoever provides the source and we have the same problem. I doubt > there is any realistic way of checking source, apart being vigilant > and watchful when using s

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-09 Thread Hac Er
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:36:00 +0700 Willy Sudiarto Raharjo wrote: > That's why in SBo, they never give any source in the repository > you have to download the source by yourself > > if you don't believe the script, you can check whether it tries to > patch or do something malicious and you can alw

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-09 Thread Bradley D. Thornton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On 06/09/2011 04:04 AM, Niels Horn wrote: > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Rob McGee wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 11:19:25AM +0200, Hac Er wrote: >>> I have discovered this piece of wisdom in the SlackBuilds site: >>> >>> "If you don't tr

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-09 Thread David Woodfall
On (08:04 09/06/11), Niels Horn put forth the proposition: On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Rob McGee wrote: On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 11:19:25AM +0200, Hac Er wrote: I have discovered this piece of wisdom in the SlackBuilds site: "If you don't trust us to check the scripts for malicious activ

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-09 Thread Niels Horn
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Rob McGee wrote: > On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 11:19:25AM +0200, Hac Er wrote: >> I have discovered this piece of wisdom in the SlackBuilds site: >> >> "If you don't trust us to check the scripts for malicious >> activity, then please move along." > > Wise words indeed.

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-09 Thread Rob McGee
On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 11:19:25AM +0200, Hac Er wrote: > I have discovered this piece of wisdom in the SlackBuilds site: > > "If you don't trust us to check the scripts for malicious > activity, then please move along." Wise words indeed. > I trust SlackBuild's statement of them checking the sc

Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-09 Thread Willy Sudiarto Raharjo
> I trust SlackBuild's statement of them checking the scripts for evil > contents. In fact, many scripts are so simple that you can check them > quickly in a few minutes. However... what happens if Niels Horn is one > of those Black Hats who live in the shadows, slowly infecting computers > all aro

[Slackbuilds-users] Corcern about sources' procedence

2011-06-09 Thread Hac Er
Hello. I have discovered this piece of wisdom in the SlackBuilds site: "If you don't trust us to check the scripts for malicious activity, then please move along." This has made me wonder how secure is in fact the SlackBuild software. Sure, 99.9% of contributors are honorable people with pure mo