Re: [SLUG] Re: Weird login behaviour

2005-02-28 Thread Michael Lake
O Plameras wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:09:34 +1000, QuantumG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I dunno if anyone else has said this or not, but /dev/kmem and the joy of kernel exploits can allow an attacker to taint a kernel in ways that you simply cannot detect. Not to mention

Re: [SLUG] Re: Weird login behaviour

2005-02-28 Thread O Plameras
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:09:34 +1000, QuantumG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I dunno if anyone else has said this or not, but /dev/kmem and the joy of kernel exploits can allow an attacker to taint a kernel in ways that you simply cannot detect. Not to mention the fact that

Re: [SLUG] Stupidest law of the year candidate!

2005-02-28 Thread Grant Parnell
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Marek Wawrzyczny wrote: > On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:15, Benno wrote: > > On Thu Feb 24, 2005 at 10:08:33 +1100, DaZZa wrote: > > >We may as well shut down the internet now. > > > > > >http://www.smh.com.au/news/Breaking/ISPs-forced-to-join-child-porn-crackdo > > >wn/2005/02/23/11

Re: [SLUG] Re: Lindsay's nomination

2005-02-28 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 12:03 +1100, Elliott-Brennan wrote: >I hope this helps to dispel any concerns held by SLUG members regarding >the election of a person under the age of 18 years. I don't think anyone in the current committee has any concerns at this point.. I'm sure they jump on me if they

[SLUG] [sydpug] Reminder: March Sydpug Tonight!

2005-02-28 Thread Gavin Sherry
Hi all, Just a reminder that the Sydney PostgreSQL Users Group will be meeting tonight. You can find more details here: http://pugs.postgresql.org/sydpug/archives/26.html Thanks Gavin ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase

Re: [SLUG] Re: Weird login behaviour

2005-02-28 Thread QuantumG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But your message made me wonder - is it practical to disable creation of /dev/kmem? Sure is. What other practical ways have we got to avoid attacks through it? SE Linux? GRSecurity? Well, the year I gave up being a security consultant was the same year that I had a f

[SLUG] Re: Lindsay's nomination

2005-02-28 Thread Elliott-Brennan
Hi all, 1. I'm not a financial member of SLUG (thus can't vote) 2. I have met Lindsay and agree with everyone's comments about his competence and abilities (he's also a nice guy :)). 3. I work in the internal investigations unit of a large NSW government department. 4. We supervise the licence

Re: [SLUG] Re: Weird login behaviour

2005-02-28 Thread amos
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:09:34 +1000, QuantumG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I dunno if anyone else has said this or not, but /dev/kmem and the joy > of kernel exploits can allow an attacker to taint a kernel in ways that > you simply cannot detect. Not to mention the fact that kernel modules Actual

Re: [SLUG] Re: Nomination: Lindsay Holmwood

2005-02-28 Thread Ken Wilson
best bit of commonsense, anti organisation parralysing advice I have seen in a voluntary organisation in a long time. Well written Robert. Ken On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 00:50 +1100, Robert Thorsby wrote: > On 2005.02.28 21:30 Ashley wrote: > >>> You're being nominated for an Ordinary Member position

Re: [SLUG] Re: Weird login behaviour

2005-02-28 Thread QuantumG
Andrew Bennetts wrote: You claimed: o one can load kernel codes other than loadable kernel modules(LKM) that are 'enabled'. If you try to load an LKM that is not configured the Kernel will not allow it. And because only a dozen or so LKMs are enabled instead of, perhaps, hundreds LKMs, it is easy

Re: [SLUG] Re: Weird login behaviour

2005-02-28 Thread Andrew Bennetts
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 07:42:41AM +1100, O Plameras wrote: [...] > > I think the differences of interpretation here were in the way I and you > conceptualize > the kernel codes. No, it's that you've changed what you're talking about half-way through the thread. [...] > > In the context at the

[SLUG] Getting packages on DebianXandros

2005-02-28 Thread skip evans
Greetings all from Montana, USA! I have a desktop install of Xandros 2.0, which is a distribution based on Debian. The only line in the /etc/apt/sources.list file is: deb http://xnv2.xandros.com/2.0/pkg xandros2.0-xn main contrib non-free There are several packages I would like to install, but are

Re: [SLUG] Re: Weird login behaviour

2005-02-28 Thread David Kempe
O Plameras wrote: But it does not bother me to see that discussions arise about trivial items on symantecs which are not helpful as far as I am concerned. I'm more interested to learn what others are doing in terms of security, etc., the things that matters most rather than trivialities. well

[SLUG] alsa + Audigy2 + Logitech Z5500 not loud enuf

2005-02-28 Thread Kevin Saenz
Hi all, I have bought an Audigy2 Sound card to go with my Logitech Z5500 speaker set, what I have found is to get a semi reasonable volume level I have to pump the speaker volume to near max, run alsamixer and set pcm and speaker out close to distorted sound levels to hear anything. The speakers a

Re: [SLUG] Re: Weird login behaviour

2005-02-28 Thread O Plameras
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:41:57 +1100, O Plameras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1. In CONFIG_=y I am telling the kernel load the modules at boot time; in CONFIG_MODULES=n I am telling the kernel Are you sure about that? I was always (and I've been compiling Linux kern

Re: [SLUG] Re: Nomination: Lindsay Holmwood

2005-02-28 Thread Ken Foskey
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 01:44 +1100, jan schmidt wrote: > And given that stance on under-18 members of the committee, I would like > to nominate Chris Deigan for the position of Ordinary Committee Member. > Chris has been a backbone of SLUG for a couple of years as an honourary > committee member -

Re: [SLUG] Re: Nomination: Lindsay Holmwood

2005-02-28 Thread jan schmidt
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 00:50 +1100, Robert Thorsby wrote: >Let him stand -- and then insist that anyone who challenges his >election point to an unequivocal, written, Law or binding Court >judgement that explicitly and unambiguously states otherwise, in which >case there will be (from that moment

Re: [SLUG] Re: Nomination: Lindsay Holmwood

2005-02-28 Thread Robert Thorsby
On 2005.02.28 21:30 Ashley wrote: You're being nominated for an Ordinary Member position on the committee, not as public officer (as far as I can see). The Public Officer of an association is a single, particular person, who acts as the "legal face" of the association. Thanks for clearing that u

Re: [SLUG] Re: Nomination: Lindsay Holmwood

2005-02-28 Thread Ashley
Lindsay Holmwood wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 00:35:34 +1100 Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You're being nominated for an Ordinary Member position on the committee, not as public officer (as far as I can see). The Public Officer of an association is a single, particular person, who act

[SLUG] Official SLUG T-Shirts now available for order

2005-02-28 Thread Grant Parnell - EverythingLinux
The SLUG committee has organised through ELX the manufacture of SLUG shirts made to order. Perfect for your next geek event or perhaps your next casual business meeting. Available in many sizes and choice of black, white or grey for $16.95 or $12.00 for financial members. If you're not a finan

[SLUG] March meeting of the Sydney PostgreSQL Users Group

2005-02-28 Thread Gavin Sherry
Hi all, We are back to our usual location for the March meeting of the PostgreSQL Users Group. Meet us at the James Squire Brew House[1] at King St Wharf from 18:30 onwards on the 1st of March. Anand Kumria will be giving a presentation on best practice in schema design. He will take the schema

Re: [SLUG] Nomination: Robert Collins

2005-02-28 Thread Tony Green
On 28/02/2005, at 10:25 PM, Jeff Waugh wrote: s/hook/hookers/ -> take away the cash supply, vote [1] Robert Collins for treasurer! Come on - the charges were dropped due to lack of evidence. He's paid back most of the money now! -- Tony Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's G

Re: [SLUG] Nomination: Robert Collins

2005-02-28 Thread Craige McWhirter
On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 22:06 +1100, Tony Green wrote: >Seconded - even if it's just to get Jaq off the hook this year! I'd like to thank Jamie for all the work he's done this year and in previous years in what is the heaviest workload most thankless task. You've done a great job keeping the SLUG f

Re: [SLUG] Nomination: Robert Collins

2005-02-28 Thread Jeff Waugh
> > > I'd like to nominate Rob Collins for Treasurer. > > > > > > I suck at writing reasons, so I won't even bother. :) > > > > I accept ... damn :) > > Seconded - even if it's just to get Jaq off the hook this year! s/hook/hookers/ -> take away the cash supply, vote [1] Robert Collins for trea

Re: [SLUG] Nomination: Robert Collins

2005-02-28 Thread Tony Green
On 28/02/2005, at 9:53 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 21:43 +1100, Chris Deigan wrote: Evening, I'd like to nominate Rob Collins for Treasurer. I suck at writing reasons, so I won't even bother. :) I accept ... damn :) Seconded - even if it's just to get Jaq off the hook this year!

Re: [SLUG] Nomination: Robert Collins

2005-02-28 Thread Robert Collins
On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 21:43 +1100, Chris Deigan wrote: >Evening, > >I'd like to nominate Rob Collins for Treasurer. > >I suck at writing reasons, so I won't even bother. :) I accept ... damn :) Rob -- GPG key available at: . signature.asc Description: Thi

Re: [SLUG] Sharing partition 'tween Linux and Winders (for video editing)

2005-02-28 Thread Elliott-Brennan
Ben, Hi. I'm informed that FAT32 and VFAT are the same. I wasn't aware of this until recently either :) Patrick Ben Donohue wrote: what about FAT32? I don't know what VFAT is, so if it is fat32 forget I made this post Ben Elliott-Brennan wrote: Hi, I'm looking for some ideas about sharing a parti

[SLUG] Nomination: Robert Collins

2005-02-28 Thread Chris Deigan
Evening, I'd like to nominate Rob Collins for Treasurer. I suck at writing reasons, so I won't even bother. :) Chris. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] Sharing partition 'tween Linux and Winders (for video editing)

2005-02-28 Thread Ben Donohue
what about FAT32? I don't know what VFAT is, so if it is fat32 forget I made this post Ben Elliott-Brennan wrote: Hi, I'm looking for some ideas about sharing a partition. I have Fedora Core 3 on one HDD (200G), dual booting with XP on a second HDD (20G). I want to share about 100G of the FC driv