Re: [SLUG] Re: Osirix software port required MacOS-X to Linux

2005-12-20 Thread QuantumG
Rick Welykochy wrote: gcc handles Objective C. With a bit of work I'm sure this thing could be made to compile on Linux. Of course, all the GUI code will have to be ripped out and replaced. gcc is what 99% of Mac developers use to compile Objective-C on OS X. The GUI code is developed again

Re: ocaml vs python/ruby/perl etc. was [SLUG] Why not C

2005-11-24 Thread QuantumG
Peter Miller wrote: On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 12:48 +1100, James Purser wrote: http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/less?view=uk Read the note on usage again. Dist thou not knoweth how thee shalt speak?! Prescriptive grammer is domain of the historically ignorant. Language changes

Re: [SLUG] C Gurus

2005-11-21 Thread QuantumG
ashley maher wrote: try this instead: #include #include #include int somefunction(char **string1) { char *string2 = "some words\0"; *string1 = (char *)calloc(strlen(string2 + 1), sizeof (char)); strcpy(*string1, string2); return 0; } int main () { cha

Re: [SLUG] Sony recalls copy-protected music CDs

2005-11-17 Thread QuantumG
Richard wrote: So people who keep saying there is a law for us and a law for the big corporations this is poof beyond doubt. It's just proof that the LAME developers are short sighted geeks. See my recent rant on the matter: http://whydontyoublogaboutit.com/item/356 Trent -- SLUG - Sy

Re: [SLUG] Anyone know of a LISP Users group in Sydney ?

2005-10-27 Thread QuantumG
David Creelman wrote: I've setup a community next to my account on LiveJournal, it's at http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=sydneylisp. Sorry for the unimaginative name... Call it 'thydney'. Trent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscriptio

Re: [SLUG] Network Tool to aid Virus Detection

2005-10-20 Thread QuantumG
Peter Rundle wrote: I need a traffic analyser that can detect attacks by the sasser worm and tell me the source IP or hardware Mac address that they are coming from. Snort? Trent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug

Re: [SLUG] Re: [wellylug] /dev/mouse & /dev/dsp missing !

2005-10-14 Thread QuantumG
Jason aladellocchio wrote: /dev/mouse is depreciated. All it's supposed to be is a link to /dev/psaux as far as I recall but on my system it doesn't exist either. I'd guess it was removed as it's not supposed to be used any more. The most recommended thing to change it to would be /dev/

Re: [SLUG] Installing X in Debian

2005-09-27 Thread QuantumG
Peter Hardy wrote: Then you need an X server (the program responsible for accepting input and actually drawing on the screen), Which reminds me. Does anyone know the status of Gnome/DirectFB? Last time I checked they were finding DirectFB a bit of a moving target. Trent -- SLUG - Sydney

Re: [SLUG] Your top-ten linux desktop apps

2005-09-27 Thread QuantumG
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: All you've done is replace the for loop with a while loop. You are still setting the start condition and the end condition for the looping operation. These are things the compiler (or rather the language) expect you to do. In Io (a dynamically typed language) yo

Re: [SLUG] Your top-ten linux desktop apps

2005-09-27 Thread QuantumG
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Nice troll or was it? read The End Of History And The Last Programming Language. Best I can find for a web reference: http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~leavens/ComS541Fall97/hw-pages/history/gabriel.html Basically if your language is "new" and you don't have a

Re: [SLUG] Re: dynamic vs static type checking

2005-09-27 Thread QuantumG
Benno wrote: There is also Isabelle: http://isabelle.in.tum.de/ which is free. I've seen this before but run away screaming because it is Emacs based. Two options, I can try to learn Emacs (shudder) or I can try to figure out how this thing is integrated with Emacs and use it without Ema

Re: [SLUG] Re: dynamic vs static type checking

2005-09-27 Thread QuantumG
Speaking of static analysis. I managed to get an evaluation version of this software: http://www.eschertech.com/products/ It works by changing the level of representation at which you write software. Instead of writing imperative programs you write declarative specifications. The prob

Re: [SLUG] Your top-ten linux desktop apps

2005-09-26 Thread QuantumG
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: You will notice that something like the Array.mapi function is much less likely to contain errors than the C for loop. What I noticed is that they invented syntax when they could have just as easily have used C syntax. Way to knife your language. Trent -- SLUG

Re: [SLUG] Your top-ten linux desktop apps

2005-09-26 Thread QuantumG
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Thats why I'm so keen on O'Caml. It offers even more static analysis than C and C++. Its significantly more difficult to write bugs into an O'Caml program than a C or C++ program. Sounds like the antithesis of Objective-C and other dynamically typed languages.

Re: [SLUG] request contact from computerbank

2005-09-22 Thread QuantumG
Taryn East wrote: anyway - hopefully the right somebody will see this message and respond offlist :) I'd like to hear from them too, my partner comes into a lot of old (pentium II/III) systems which the company she works for just throws away. She's started to bring them home but we don't

Re: [SLUG] great code to learn from - request

2005-09-20 Thread QuantumG
Taryn East wrote: what nobody else is going to bite? :( I heard someone bitching the other day that gtk+/python apps are slow. Not been my experience, but if you're sufficiently bored, why don't you download some and see for yourself? Trent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing L

Re: [SLUG] Presentation Mind Control - 21st September 2005

2005-09-20 Thread QuantumG
Terry Collins wrote: 3) Unfortunately, Jacinta earnt her bile. I don't think Jacinta chose the name of the talk. I think Jeff is more deserving of bile, pile it on him. Trent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org

Re: [SLUG] Presentation Mind Control - 21st September 2005

2005-09-18 Thread QuantumG
Jeff Waugh wrote: Have you ever kissed a girl? You're a disgrace. Trent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] Presentation Mind Control - 21st September 2005

2005-09-18 Thread QuantumG
David Kempe wrote: I talk to plenty of geeks who have something worthwhile to say, but can't make the words make sense. Its not motivational speaking, its effective communication. Entirely different. Geeks are just people, people listen to effective communicators, regardless of the worth of

Re: [SLUG] Presentation Mind Control - 21st September 2005

2005-09-18 Thread QuantumG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it make sense now? Mindless masses, got ya. Trent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] Presentation Mind Control - 21st September 2005

2005-09-18 Thread QuantumG
Jacinta Richardson wrote: G'day everyone, You are invited to join us in a talk by Paul Fenwick about Presentation Mind Control - how to make other people think your talk is much better than it really is. Come and learn some great tips on how to improve your presentations. Ok, I'll bite.

Re: [SLUG] OT: Interesting Article about 64bit computing

2005-09-12 Thread QuantumG
James Gray wrote: "Peripherals you currently own or plan to purchase in the near future (cameras, printers, MP3 players, handheld devices) will most likely NOT work on a system purchased with Windows XP Professional x64, and some software applications may not work on the x64 operating system."

Re: [SLUG] Re: Aptitude command to TOTALLY remove KDE

2005-09-01 Thread QuantumG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget that a microkernel introduces communication overhead and usually some extra scheduling overhead which in turn eats into performance. I seem to remember there was a big squabble over who had the fastest webserver until Linux introduced a kernel level http acc

Re: [SLUG] Aptitude command to TOTALLY remove KDE

2005-09-01 Thread QuantumG
Jeff Waugh wrote: And for the third time, you haven't suggested any reasons why you think this is the case. There is more to user experience than the extreme technical definition of responsiveness suggested by "real time scheduling". Obviously. But real time scheduling *does* contribute to

Re: [SLUG] Aptitude command to TOTALLY remove KDE

2005-09-01 Thread QuantumG
Sam Couter wrote: No, what I said is correct. The kernel is largely irrelevant to the end-user experience. Whether or not the kernel has real time scheduling or not makes one heck of a difference to the end-user experience. And, (for I think, the third time now?) although you can hack re

Re: [SLUG] MicroWHO? [Was: Aptitude command to TOTALLY remove KDE]

2005-08-31 Thread QuantumG
Jeff Waugh wrote: Say *what*?! There were no significant features in BeOS that are impossible to implement on Linux, either in the kernel or in userland. Attempting to credit the vast number of variables in a high quality user experience on a specious technicality is ridiculous. I didn't sa

Re: [SLUG] Aptitude command to TOTALLY remove KDE

2005-08-31 Thread QuantumG
Sam Couter wrote: The Hurd is just a kernel (well, a microkernel and a bunch of servers that offer services normally provided by more traditional kernels). GNOME runs on the Hurd and it's about the same as GNOME on Linux or FreeBSD or any one of a bunch of free operating systems. I don't know if

Re: [SLUG] Aptitude command to TOTALLY remove KDE

2005-08-30 Thread QuantumG
Jim Lemon wrote: This is another of those interesting discussions that sometimes veers close to a "Creationism vs Intelligent Design" slanging match. 1) Why do Apple and Microsoft spend more than the GNP of some countries in legal fees fighting over user interfaces? Once you've got your use

Re: [SLUG] Software Freedom Day

2005-08-24 Thread QuantumG
Pia Waugh wrote: Yes! We are planning to hand out CDs and foo in the city followed by an installfest. Details currently at http://maitri.ubuntu.com/softwarefreedomday/wiki/index.php/Sydney and are yet to be finalised. We'd love more hands to help out if you can on the day! I have tshirts on the

[SLUG] Software Freedom Day

2005-08-17 Thread QuantumG
So is anyone planning activities for Software Freedom Day? Need any help? Trent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] Google Earth on Linux ?

2005-07-21 Thread QuantumG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it possible to run Google Earth on Linux ? Well, there's no linux version available from their web site, if that's the question. However, looking at the 38 dlls it uses, I really can't tell you why. For example, the user interface, is using Qt. To fetch dat

Re: [SLUG] Is Linux for losers?

2005-06-21 Thread QuantumG
Nathan Clark wrote: He fails to mention that all code that has ever been written and is going to be written sucks. Way to have hope for the future dude. Trent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglis

Re: [SLUG] Is Linux for losers?

2005-06-21 Thread QuantumG
Carlo Sogono wrote: PS. I'm not an OpenBSD guy. Let's just say that the line to punch Theo in the head forms to the left. As for Simon Lok, he's obviously never written a serious piece of software in his life. Trent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ S

Re: [SLUG] XP access to ext3 linux partition

2005-06-01 Thread QuantumG
linley caetan wrote: I have just installed ubuntu as dual boot on my sony vaio. Is there a straighforward way of accessing the linux patition from windows ? I recently installed an ext3 device driver for windows xp. It's way too unstable for actual use. I think the simple answer is "no".

Re: [SLUG] fastest *.zip file locator

2005-05-27 Thread QuantumG
Del wrote: if [ -any zip files- ]; then do this fi blah=*.zip if [ -n "$blah" ]; then echo foo fi is what I'd do. TRent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

[SLUG] Windows XP SP2

2005-05-27 Thread QuantumG
Someone I know, who will remain names, just told me that they have just discovered that the latest version of their software that they have deployed to a few 10s of thousands of sites doesn't work in Windows XP SP2. I said I wasn't surprised as, you know, SP2 is a train wreck. They stress t

Re: [SLUG] -Wshadow

2005-05-25 Thread QuantumG
QuantumG wrote: x = foo + y(); oops, that should be: x = foo + (*y)(); which admitably is painful. Alternatively you can make a tempory to hold the parameter.. Of course, this is all silly and you shouldn't do it in normal code. Trent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Gro

Re: [SLUG] -Wshadow

2005-05-25 Thread QuantumG
Robert Collins wrote: extern int foo (void); static void bar (int foo) { /* use foo the function */ int x = foo (); /* use foo the function */ /* (OH shit) */ int (*y) (void) = foo; /* use both ;) */ x = foo + y (); } Almost! What you want is: static void bar(int foo) { i

Re: [SLUG] -Wshadow

2005-05-25 Thread QuantumG
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Sorry, I don't think that is an answer. In particular, it does not match C++'s scope resolution operator. What we need to be able to do is: void bar(int foo) { /* Use foo the function. */ x = foo(); /* Use foo the integer. */ x += fo

Re: [SLUG] -Wshadow

2005-05-24 Thread QuantumG
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: OK, you are suggesting that the compiler should treat parameter names and function names as being in separate name spaces. If you then have a function named foo and parameter named foo and you use foo in your function? How does the compiler distinguish between foo th

Re: [SLUG] system binaries attempt to exec on login ?

2005-05-24 Thread QuantumG
Voytek Eymont wrote: what have I done... ? they are they supposed to be executing on login... ? check your startup files.. (like .bash_profile) there's probably some attempt to set up aliases and they expect the executables to be world readable. (which is bad but not unheard of). Trent

Re: [SLUG] setting system binaries to 0700 ?

2005-05-22 Thread QuantumG
Voytek wrote: ooops I guess I meant execute and read, not write... Why do you need to read it? Trent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] getting all .bash_histories across the hd ?

2005-05-22 Thread QuantumG
Voytek wrote: what the easiest way to get to all '.bash_history' files on the whole drive ? locate .bash_history will probably do it, if not: find / -name .bash_history Trent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.or

[SLUG] glut apps giving blank window

2005-05-18 Thread QuantumG
Would anyone happen to know why an app which uses libglut might display a blank screen under ubuntu but work fine on every other linux box I've tried? I'm thinking xorg might be the issue. Trent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: h

Re: [SLUG] Clipboards under X

2005-05-17 Thread QuantumG
David Gillies wrote: Now under ubuntu selecting text and ctrl+c text appears to be two seperate clipboards. This can be quite annoying since some applications can't ctrl+v to paste and others I have can't middle mouse click to paste. hehe, if you think that's annoying, ctrl-c from an app, close

Re: [SLUG] Compatibility Issues with Windows64

2005-05-05 Thread QuantumG
Edwin Humphries wrote: Federal Government bodies are concerned that there are Linux compatibility issues with upcoming 64-bit Windows. Uhhh, I'd personally be more worried about the absolutely certain incompatabilities that exist between win64 and winXP/2k. It's so hard to believe that the wo

Re: [SLUG] gunzip error: invalid compressed data--format violated

2005-05-04 Thread QuantumG
Michael Lake wrote: Thats why I'm wondering if it's an error because I used an IRIX gzip and trying to unzip with gunzip on a TiPowerBook under Debian. I have had similar issues. I actually installed gzip from source on the ancient machine I was using. These days I'd install bzip2. Of course,

[SLUG] ext2 ifs driver

2005-04-26 Thread QuantumG
At the Ubuntu conf yesterday a number of people brought up the issue of transfering files from linux to windows on a dual boot machine. Apparently the vast majority of people still use a FAT32 partition to do this (or a FAT32 formated removable drive like a USB stick). I just thought I'd poin

Re: [SLUG] Can anyone tell me what ns1.aztec.20.com is???

2005-04-25 Thread QuantumG
Alan L Tyree wrote: "CRIMINAL CODE ACT 1995 - SECT 476.2 Meaning of unauthorised access, modification or impairment (1) In this Part: (a) access to data held in a computer; or (b) modification of data held in a computer; or (c) the impairment of electronic communication to or from a computer

Re: [SLUG] Legality of port scanning.

2005-04-25 Thread QuantumG
Kevin Saenz wrote: I am checking for it I know that it was passed around 5 years ago. You need to get written permission to do port scanning on other machines. I am looking for the doco. Personally I wouldn't be surprised to find that you need written permission to connect to a web server. Tre

Re: [SLUG] first day of week in Ubuntu Hoary?

2005-04-10 Thread QuantumG
Sonia Hamilton wrote: I've just upgraded one of my machines to Ubuntu Hoary - very nice. I've noticed however that the first day of the week defaults to Sunday rather than Monday, and I can't find a way of changing it. Any pointers? The religous implications are astonishing! Seriously though, I

Re: [SLUG] problem with my ubuntu

2005-04-08 Thread QuantumG
ray wrote: hey there all i have a major problem with my Ubuntu platform it won't start up anymore and tells me the X sever has inexplicable errors and that i need to reset it to get the GDM working properly .Any how its all too complicated for my meager abilities and I can't start the thing to g

Re: [SLUG] [ot] Rant on "tech" salesman who has not heard of Linux

2005-04-08 Thread QuantumG
Richard Hayes wrote: Hardly Normal is the largest retailer of computer equipment is Australia by a long way. If their salespeople have not heard of Linux then I fear Australia is further behind that I thought. I got a lecture yesterday from the uber-nerd at EB when I asked him when they were g

Re: [SLUG] excrypting fs

2005-04-06 Thread QuantumG
Howard Lowndes wrote: Probably a stronger front door if the boys in blue come knocking with heavy hammers because they suspect that you have something to hide :) All the cool kids these days run Knoppix and just power down their machine when their Mum^H^H^H^H^H police knock on their door. Poof

Re: [SLUG] Virtual hosting with VMWare

2005-04-05 Thread QuantumG
Broun, Bevan wrote: Can you clarify this for me. is vmware esx it's own kernel or is it linux with vmware's custom modules (which is how it' appears to me)? IIRC, GSX is Linux with custom kernel modules but ESX is it's own kernel. I think it was based on FreeBSD way back when they founded VMW

Re: [SLUG] Virtual hosting with VMWare

2005-04-05 Thread QuantumG
Broun, Bevan wrote: I think you will want vmware esx which installs straight on your hardware. I used to work at VMWare. All the new features (especially performance features) went into ESX before they went into GSX and sometimes filtered down to Workstation. It's a little known fact that VMWar

Re: [SLUG] wget *.jpg

2005-04-03 Thread QuantumG
Voytek wrote: Is there a way with wget to get just all jpegs of a web server tree ? I'm reading the docs, but haven't figured it out yet it's something like: wget -r -A *.jpg www.myserver.tld I did something similar the other day. Trent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List -

Re: [SLUG] Nomination acceptance

2005-03-20 Thread QuantumG
Grant Parnell wrote: * I want to get more youth involved because a) they have more time to do stuff and b) I like teaching stuff. Can I just mention another good reason to encourage kids who are interested in programming to start hacking on open source projects: kids have a better understa

Re: [SLUG] proftpd

2005-03-15 Thread QuantumG
Luke Skywalker wrote: drw-r--r--4 exangel ftp 128 Mar 16 09:43 ftp_private Well I don't know about the rest of it but presumably you want +x on that dir, otherwise no-one will be allowed to cd into it. Trent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscrip

Re: [SLUG] Thunderbird as default e-mail for Firefox - not succesful yet

2005-03-13 Thread QuantumG
Peter Rundle wrote: My only gripe is that prior to this, in mozilla 1.6... you could right click on a link in the e-mail browser and open the page in a new tab, where as thunderbird doesn't appear to support this, it opens it in the active tab replacing the page of interest you might have open (

Re: [SLUG] How do I mount an audio Cd ?

2005-03-12 Thread QuantumG
Jeff Waugh wrote: Windows is lying a little bit, to give you a nicer interface. Audio CDs are not like data CDs, and cannot be mounted. From a purely philosophical point of view, what would be a good reason for not have a kernel module that mounts audio CDs by interpreting the red book format?

Re: [SLUG] Using open source code in propriety code

2005-03-09 Thread QuantumG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like LGPL? That's different of course. But what other copyleft licenses are there? There's about 10 on this page: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html But the biggest one in use that you might not have considered is the Apple Public Source License. In

Re: [SLUG] Using open source code in propriety code

2005-03-09 Thread QuantumG
Glen Turner wrote: As an example, I've used GPLed code in propietary products, as have Cisco, Intel, Microsoft and many other firms. Most companies meet that licenses T&Cs by shipping the sources to to the GPLed part of the product on a CD enclosed with the product. Presumably he's talking about

Re: [SLUG] Using open source code in propriety code

2005-03-09 Thread QuantumG
Richard Hayes wrote: Dear List, What OSI approved licenses allow for the reincorporation of open source code into propriety products. BSD obviously. BSD not only allows for it but actively encourages it. Any others? I believe the term for this is "non-copyleft". But that actually can be a lit

Re: [SLUG] Memory-mapping source files for faster lexical analysis

2005-03-01 Thread QuantumG
Michael Knight wrote: Hi all, I'm starting an honours year at uni this year. My supervisor and I are thinking of doing a paper on trying to determine if memory-mapping source files will speed up the lexical analysis phase of various compilers (instead of whatever buffering method it currently emplo

Re: [SLUG] Re: Weird login behaviour

2005-02-28 Thread QuantumG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But your message made me wonder - is it practical to disable creation of /dev/kmem? Sure is. What other practical ways have we got to avoid attacks through it? SE Linux? GRSecurity? Well, the year I gave up being a security consultant was the same year that I had a f

Re: [SLUG] Re: Weird login behaviour

2005-02-28 Thread QuantumG
Andrew Bennetts wrote: You claimed: o one can load kernel codes other than loadable kernel modules(LKM) that are 'enabled'. If you try to load an LKM that is not configured the Kernel will not allow it. And because only a dozen or so LKMs are enabled instead of, perhaps, hundreds LKMs, it is easy

Re: [SLUG] Stupidest law of the year candidate!

2005-02-23 Thread QuantumG
Michael Lake wrote: ...and what if the 15yr old model is entirely computer generated? I can see that in the future the business ppl that cater to this 'market' will start to use very advanced computer graphics to create 'kiddies'. I can see them trying to get a ruling in a court that this is 'a

Re: [SLUG] Stupidest law of the year candidate!

2005-02-23 Thread QuantumG
Howard Lowndes wrote: Which then begs the question as to the status of M$ networks. So we should ban 207.46.156.188? Ok, doing it right now. Trent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] Stupidest law of the year candidate!

2005-02-23 Thread QuantumG
Luke Skywalker wrote: I personally would love to see all offenders and people running those sites in jail...but I'd focus on taking the sites down for good not just a restriction on access. Well, I think the problem is that many of these sites are overseas so the Australian police can't touch th

Re: [SLUG] Stupidest law of the year candidate!

2005-02-23 Thread QuantumG
Benno wrote: Of course, there is a bit of a problem here, how can they check it? Since that is also illegal. Woah! Good point. I hear there's a lot of child porn over at 207.46.144.222, let's ban that. Trent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription i

Re: [SLUG] list of distros

2005-02-21 Thread QuantumG
Heracles wrote: Support for newer canon printers is problematic as canon wont allow open sourcing of their drivers and refuse to supply drivers for linux I decompiled a bother printer driver for linux, it was an absolute mess. Buffer overflows, hard coded values, code duplication. They didn't

Re: [SLUG] list of distros

2005-02-17 Thread QuantumG
Rod Butcher wrote: I think in a capitalist system, all these leeches are in fact contributing something, they're filling the user-friendliness niche, i.e. they've turned Linux from a geek hobby into a system useable by the techophobe public. Oh yes, they're contributing something to their cust

Re: [SLUG] list of distros

2005-02-17 Thread QuantumG
Dean Hamstead wrote: sorry, i just didnt like the tone of the email. im 100% debian and bsd Wow, I'm being chastised for things I *didn't* say now. Cool. Yes, as I understand it Xandros doesn't not participate in the open source community. They just leech what they can get, add "value" and try

Re: [SLUG] list of distros

2005-02-17 Thread QuantumG
Ken Wilson wrote: Xandros was able to recognise all other ditributions on my hard discs and give them a place on the boot selection screen. I hear that Xandros doesn't actually try to get their patches intergrated back into the community projects they extend, is that true? Trent -- SLUG - Sydn

Re: [SLUG] Wall-to-wall Windows

2005-02-16 Thread QuantumG
Jeff Waugh wrote: Ah, c'mon, Do you sell Positive Thinking tapes as a sideline or what? :) Trent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] Wall-to-wall Windows

2005-02-16 Thread QuantumG
David Guest wrote: Really, someone should take the IT section of SMH to task over this sort of crap. --- Although the project is mostly completed, data structures will continue to be modified and the last vestiges of open source will be eradicated in coming months. --- That's beautiful reportin

Re: [SLUG] C newbie seeks directions

2005-02-16 Thread QuantumG
Rod Butcher wrote: Recommended newbie-friendly C mailing lists ? If you have the time I'd recommend #c on undernet. Trent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] safe(ish) single-login from website

2005-02-15 Thread QuantumG
Rob Sharp wrote: :-$ (I'll get me coat) heh, I remember I went to an interview with Yahoo, London and for some reason they were asking me lots of OO Perl questions. I also had a flu. After 20 minutes of saying my recollection of that aspect of Perl isn't too good, I finally got up and decla

Re: [SLUG] FYI: Campaign of Mis-Information

2005-02-15 Thread QuantumG
Anand Kumria wrote: And the downfall of the music industry is largely their own doing anyway. Well ya know, if there is to be a downfall to the music industry one would hope it would be as a result of their standard operating procedure of putting hype ahead of artistic merit. But hey, we've b

Re: [SLUG] FYI: Campaign of Mis-Information

2005-02-14 Thread QuantumG
Jeff Waugh wrote: The lack of context on "welcomed the move" does not change the entire nature of the article, or significantly impact on its message. I think the whole message of the first article (which is very different to the second article) is that all Australians are criminals when it co

Re: [SLUG] FYI: Campaign of Mis-Information

2005-02-14 Thread QuantumG
Jeff Waugh wrote: Missing context for a quote can't be anything other than an old school propaganda technique? Sheesh... Take off your tin foil hats, guys. Umm no. Did you read the article? The writer has deliberately gone to the effort of placing those two paragraphs together to imply that t

Re: [SLUG] FYI: Campaign of Mis-Information

2005-02-14 Thread QuantumG
ff-air recording etc. Certainly NOT happy about criminalisation of consumers as delivered by the recent FTA. Best regards Charles Britton QuantumG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02/15 2:54 pm >>> An online article in the Sydney Morning Herald, http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Co

Re: [SLUG] FYI: Campaign of Mis-Information

2005-02-14 Thread QuantumG
Jeff Waugh wrote: Summary of the couch potato article, by paragraph (media analysis is so much fun). I'm yet to find anything seriously objectionable. The article actually summarises our point of view on copyright issues very well, and right up front, which is unusual. Yes, this article is a lot

Re: [SLUG] FYI: Campaign of Mis-Information

2005-02-14 Thread QuantumG
Benno wrote: www.bugmenot.com is great for that kind of thing. username: bug_menot password: bugmenot for anyone who wants it. Trent -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] FYI: Campaign of Mis-Information

2005-02-14 Thread QuantumG
Craige McWhirter wrote: http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Copyright-laws-under-review/2005/02/14/1108229936338.html?oneclick=true http://www.smh.com.au/news/TV--Radio/Brave-new-world-for-a-couch-potato/2005/02/14/1108229927903.html Anyone able to share a login for this stuff? Stupid New York

Re: [SLUG] Re: Re: Copyright assignment + the GPL [Was: Streaming media servers]

2005-02-10 Thread QuantumG
Glen Turner wrote: The only thing that is clear is that the developer needs a high level of trust in the entity requesting the copyright assignment. After SCO I'm not sure that any of Ray Noorda's current or previous activities engenders the necessary level of trust for me. Exactly. I just happ

Re: [SLUG] Re: Re: Copyright assignment + the GPL [Was: Streaming media servers]

2005-02-08 Thread QuantumG
Jeff Waugh wrote: That's claptrap. It's because their tree has the momentum. If anyone forked, creating way more momentum (cf. xorg), Novell copyright assignment would no longer be relevant. But they maintain the momentum, because they've done nothing wrong by the community, and there's no value fo

Re: [SLUG] Re: Re: Copyright assignment + the GPL [Was: Streaming media servers]

2005-02-08 Thread QuantumG
Jeff Waugh wrote: You're making a general statement (that copyright assignment is bad), but hanging on to a specific example [1]. Look at other projects that require copyright assignment, such as Evolution, and see whether the points you make apply equally. From the Evolution FAQ: http://forg

Re: [SLUG] Re: Re: Copyright assignment + the GPL [Was: Streaming media servers]

2005-02-08 Thread QuantumG
Jeff Waugh wrote: You're making a general statement (that copyright assignment is bad), but Not at all. My general statement is that assigning copyright to people who want that copyright assignment so they can make a proprietary distribution of the software is bad. Assigning copyright to the

Re: [SLUG] Re: Re: Copyright assignment + the GPL [Was: Streaming media servers]

2005-02-08 Thread QuantumG
Matthew Palmer wrote: Helix. Which one do you want? No, you can't answer option 1 because Real isn't going to allow that. Sorry, I think the correct answer is to fork Helix, implement all the features that people want. That way when people choose to use Helix because they want to stream som

Re: [SLUG] Re: Copyright assignment + the GPL [Was: Streaming media servers]

2005-02-08 Thread QuantumG
Jeff Waugh wrote: Which is the case, even if the copyright owner distributes the software under another license. If they distribute exactly the same code under another license. They hardly ever do this because the user has no interest in getting something under a proprietary license if they c

[SLUG] Re: Copyright assignment + the GPL [Was: Streaming media servers]

2005-02-08 Thread QuantumG
Jeff Waugh wrote: I understand why this perspective has currency, but I disagree with it quite strongly. The code is available under the GPL, the community has full GPL rights, and you have a single copyright owner who is prepared to defend the software and aggressively develop/improve the software

Re: [SLUG] Streaming media servers

2005-02-08 Thread QuantumG
Jeff Waugh wrote: If the project has a sane license, then you are contributing to the commons in perpetuity (almost, let's not get too finicky), so regardless of the fortunes of the company (who are most likely doing the majority share of the development work - why shouldn't they have a good bottom

Re: [SLUG] Streaming media servers

2005-02-08 Thread QuantumG
Shaun Butler wrote: You could also try http://helixcommunity.org/. The open source version of helix Server will play REAL streaming protocols, but if you wanted to stream quicktime and Windows Media, you have to buy the commercial version :(. I find it so scary that these companies which dual l

[SLUG] support for open source

2005-02-06 Thread QuantumG
After reading this poorly written article: http://analysis.itmanagersjournal.com/article.pl?sid=05/02/03/1918223&tid=107&tid=112 a friend asked me what was the most acceptable way to profit from open source. Having been sufficiently confused by the article it took some time to straighten hi