Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS

2004-02-28 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 08:43, DaZZa wrote: > On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Robert Collins wrote: > > > On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 01:44, Greg Wright wrote: > > > Don't work around it, you should use your ISPs SMTP server to send out > > > mailAOL is to be commended for this type of checking. > > > > What

Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS

2004-02-25 Thread Jon Teh
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 10:43:23AM +1100, Jeff Allison wrote: > On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 10:31, Jon Teh wrote: > > > That's still considered a real circuit however, even if your call goes via > > TDMA on the way to the exchange. Inter exchange circuits are fibre these days > > all running PCM over TD

Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS

2004-02-25 Thread Jeff Allison
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 10:31, Jon Teh wrote: > That's still considered a real circuit however, even if your call goes via > TDMA on the way to the exchange. Inter exchange circuits are fibre these days > all running PCM over TDMA. > > -- Jon Teh I had one of those but the wheels fell off :/ -- R

Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS

2004-02-25 Thread Jon Teh
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 10:28:10AM +1100, Jeff Allison wrote: > On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 10:17, Jon Teh wrote: > > > Well, technically you get a real circuit (non-virtual), and your call > > passes through telco switch(es), which are automatic these days. You > > don't have a copper pair going straig

Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS

2004-02-25 Thread Jeff Allison
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 10:17, Jon Teh wrote: > Well, technically you get a real circuit (non-virtual), and your call > passes through telco switch(es), which are automatic these days. You > don't have a copper pair going straight from you to your friend :). > > -- Jon Teh well not to my house I'm

Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS

2004-02-25 Thread Jon Teh
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 07:14:13AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: > On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 01:44, Greg Wright wrote: > > > > > Don't work around it, you should use your ISPs SMTP server to send out > > mailAOL is to be commended for this type of checking. > > What ?!?! > > If I ring a fri

Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS

2004-02-25 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 00:35, Stewart wrote: > > On 25 Feb 2004, at 11:00 PM, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > > > >> Anyone been getting these > >> > >> And maybe know a work around > > > > Use your ISP's mail relay. AOL are, fairly legitimately from my POV, > > blocking SMTP connections from hosts det

Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS

2004-02-25 Thread DaZZa
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Robert Collins wrote: > On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 01:44, Greg Wright wrote: > > Don't work around it, you should use your ISPs SMTP server to send out > > mailAOL is to be commended for this type of checking. > > What ?!?! > > If I ring a friend, I get a virtual circuit wi

Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS

2004-02-25 Thread DaZZa
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Jeff Allison wrote: > Anyone been getting these > > And maybe know a work around > > From: "Mail Delivery System" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:45 PM > Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender > > > > This is the Post

Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS

2004-02-25 Thread kevin . saenz
> > Don't work around it, you should use your ISPs SMTP server to send out > mailAOL is to be commended for this type of checking. Sorry Greg I disagree with you. If you have a legit mail server with correct DNS entries then I can not see AOHells justification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux

Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS

2004-02-25 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 07:27, Howard Lowndes wrote: > > If I ring a friend, I get a virtual circuit without having to ring my > > phone companies switchboard. > > Yes, but you get to pay for the circuit, not your friend. If my friend is out of the house, with call forwarding, then thats not true

Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS

2004-02-25 Thread Howard Lowndes
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 07:14, Robert Collins wrote: > On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 01:44, Greg Wright wrote: > > > > > Don't work around it, you should use your ISPs SMTP server to send out > > mailAOL is to be commended for this type of checking. > > What ?!?! > > If I ring a friend, I get a

Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS

2004-02-25 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 01:44, Greg Wright wrote: > > Don't work around it, you should use your ISPs SMTP server to send out > mailAOL is to be commended for this type of checking. What ?!?! If I ring a friend, I get a virtual circuit without having to ring my phone companies switchboard

Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS

2004-02-25 Thread Greg Wright
*** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 25/02/2004 at 10:56 PM Jeff Allison wrote: >Anyone been getting these > >And maybe know a work around > Don't work around it, you should use your ISPs SMTP server to send out mailAOL is to be commended for this type of checking. Regards Gr

Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS

2004-02-25 Thread Stewart
On 25 Feb 2004, at 11:00 PM, Jeff Waugh wrote: Anyone been getting these And maybe know a work around Use your ISP's mail relay. AOL are, fairly legitimately from my POV, blocking SMTP connections from hosts determined to be dynamic or otherwise impermanent (residential, yada). They're also bl

Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS

2004-02-25 Thread Chris Deigan
It is said that Jeff Waugh wrote: >Use your ISP's mail relay. AOL are, fairly legitimately from my POV, >blocking SMTP connections from hosts determined to be dynamic or otherwise >impermanent (residential, yada). AOL is not the only one I've seen block such messages, and I won't deny that it is a

Re: [SLUG] AOL SUCKS

2004-02-25 Thread Jeff Waugh
> Anyone been getting these > > And maybe know a work around Use your ISP's mail relay. AOL are, fairly legitimately from my POV, blocking SMTP connections from hosts determined to be dynamic or otherwise impermanent (residential, yada). - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norway

[SLUG] AOL SUCKS

2004-02-25 Thread Jeff Allison
Anyone been getting these And maybe know a work around From: "Mail Delivery System" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:45 PM Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender > This is the Postfix program at host dalston.blackshaw.dyn.dhs.org. > > I'm s