http://sourceforge.net/projects/aureal/ Just incase people dont know these are based on the official drivers from aureal i dont think the originals were as bad as say... the original sblive drivers were, but open development is what makes unix great! (the chicks help also... *grin*) Dean -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug