On 15-Jan-2001 Ken Yap wrote:
|i came to think that peraps m stands for MIT, or alt. someones name
|like Michael etc.
Not MIT, the author was a German, Gert Doering. His name, possibly, but
it would have to be a middle initial or his mother's name or maybe even
his site muc.de.
As others
Well you've caught me out on that one. I figured that getty is just a get
from a serial device but I didn't work out the "m" bit.
Disclaimer: I have used modems a lot (even designed them) and Linux/Unix a
lot but I don't use the two together much!
TTY: Yes, teletype. I have used these beasts as
|TTY: Yes, teletype. I have used these beasts as the serial console in the
|dark ages. They were current loop interface, though, not RS-232. I think the
|name "tty" for the serial device stuck though as the Bell Labs people
|probably liked the TLA.
|Teletypewriter services are still offered by
ge = generic perhaps?
generic tty?
m for modem?
modem generic teletype
Dean
Jill Rowling wrote:
Well you've caught me out on that one. I figured that getty is just a get
from a serial device but I didn't work out the "m" bit.
Disclaimer: I have used modems a lot (even designed them) and
|ge = generic perhaps?
|
|generic tty?
|
|m for modem?
|
|modem generic teletype
No, just modem get teletype. getty was already an established process
name on Unix. It's the process that sits waiting for a keystroke
indicating a user wanting to login. Back in those days it even did
autobauding
|I'm glad I asked the question.
|
|Are there any books or docs on the boot process? As well as i386 I use a
|mklinux computer; vmlinuz seems to be on the host system as well as
|on the linux partition; the boot process seems to metamorphose as it
|proceeds. I stand back in awe-ful admiration and
on the subject of mgetty, whilst pottering about on google
doing searches like "history of mgetty" and not finding anything
i came to think that peraps m stands for MIT, or alt. someones name
like Michael etc.
Dean
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|Are there any books or docs on the boot process?
http://www.netspace.net.au/~gok/power2bash/
there are also some good links on the LFS site:
http://lfs.mirror.aarnet.edu.au/
later
marty
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|i came to think that peraps m stands for MIT, or alt. someones name
|like Michael etc.
Not MIT, the author was a German, Gert Doering. His name, possibly, but
it would have to be a middle initial or his mother's name or maybe even
his site muc.de. People do name things that could possibly be a
someone could just email him and ask =)
since he still maintains mgetty i can only assume hes alive
Dean
Ken Yap wrote:
|i came to think that peraps m stands for MIT, or alt. someones name
|like Michael etc.
Not MIT, the author was a German, Gert Doering. His name, possibly, but
it would
|i came to think that peraps m stands for MIT, or alt. someones name
|like Michael etc.
Not MIT, the author was a German, Gert Doering. His name, possibly, but
it would have to be a middle initial or his mother's name or maybe even
his site muc.de. People do name things that could
- Original Message -
From: "Ken Yap" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Sydney Linux Users Group" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] The origins of vmlinuz and mgetty
|i came to think that peraps m stands for MIT, or alt. someones name
|like Michael etc.
|Kinda like that crazy Linus guy!
Yes, but remember at first he wanted to call it Freax until his friend
disuaded him. What this says about what he thought of himself then you
can conjecture. :-)
Ok, maybe this thread is starting to stray.
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I'm glad I asked the question.
Are there any books or docs on the boot process? As well as i386 I use a
mklinux computer; vmlinuz seems to be on the host system as well as
on the linux partition; the boot process seems to metamorphose as it
proceeds. I stand back in awe-ful admiration and wish I
- Original Message -
From: "Nick Croft" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Ken Yap" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "Sydney Linux Users Group" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] The origins of vmlinuz and mgetty
I'm glad I asked the question.
Are there any
quote who="Nick Croft"
Trivia: how do you analyse mgetty. Is it Modem+get+teletype ?
Not sure... Google? Sadly dict doesn't have a good etymology of that one. :)
I'd wager that Jill Rowling will have a good answer for that.
And on a related note, what's the v m and z in vmlinuz ?
I've
"vm stems from the vmunix that sun used to use the z is from the
compressed images that we now have since the expanded kernels have trouble
being loaded at boot time into a 640K restriction (before you get the
extended memory manager running)"
Extended memory manager? You still have DOS
quote who="Ken Yap"
Extended memory manager? You still have DOS on the brain, Jeff. 32-bit
code has no problem accessing memory beyond 1 MB.
Not my answer! Not my answer! Thus the quotes. :)
Note: many people think the b stands for bzip. It
doesn't. It stands for big.
Oh yes, I made that
- Original Message -
From: "Ken Yap" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Sydney Linux Users Group" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] The origins of vmlinuz and mgetty
"vm stems from the vmunix that sun used to use the z is from the
compressed images
Yes, but the part of LILO that is running when the kernel is initially
loaded into memory is only 16-bit, and it runs in Real-Mode (so it can use
BIOS io routines), hence you live within a 20-bit address space, and you can
only access the first 1MB of RAM. This has since been addressed with
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