Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2006-01-19 Thread Angus Lees
At Wed, 04 Jan 2006 10:02:26 +1030, Glen Turner wrote: Also note that there was a leap second this year. So your NTP-based time will be 1s wrong if you have a tzdata earlier than 2005k. From what I understand of things, Unix timezone data has nothing to do with leap seconds. NTP, on the other

Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2006-01-03 Thread Glen Turner
David Kempe wrote: Christopher Vance wrote: Not yet fixed in Ubuntu 5.10. You can do the honors and lodge a bug here: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ It's probably an upstream issue. The tzdata file which distributions package is at ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/ in the tzdata*.tar.gz

Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2006-01-01 Thread Voytek Eymont
my 'up-to-dated' RH73 falls in the former category, Mar 25/26 is there a way to hand correct that ? On Sat, December 31, 2005 6:02 pm, Howard Lowndes wrote: Rather looks that way. When did you last run an update? I think it is part of the glibc package. Here's the one off the latest FC4:

Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2006-01-01 Thread Howard Lowndes
man zic to hand modify or try grabbing the tzdata package out of FC4 and see if it suits. Voytek Eymont wrote: my 'up-to-dated' RH73 falls in the former category, Mar 25/26 is there a way to hand correct that ? On Sat, December 31, 2005 6:02 pm, Howard Lowndes wrote: Rather looks that

Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2005-12-31 Thread Christopher Vance
On Sat, Dec 31, 2005 at 05:05:25PM +1100, Michael Fox wrote: How do I determine if the zonefile contains what? As its encoded? man zdump Not yet fixed in Ubuntu 5.10. -- Christopher Vance -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs:

Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2005-12-31 Thread Michael Fox
On 12/31/05, Christopher Vance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 31, 2005 at 05:05:25PM +1100, Michael Fox wrote: How do I determine if the zonefile contains what? As its encoded? man zdump Not yet fixed in Ubuntu 5.10. Yes my Ubuntu 5.10 box is also affected. (which is my mythtv backend

Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2005-12-31 Thread David Kempe
Christopher Vance wrote: Not yet fixed in Ubuntu 5.10. You can do the honors and lodge a bug here: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ thanks dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2005-12-31 Thread Rob Sharp
On 12/31/05, Michael Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/31/05, Christopher Vance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 31, 2005 at 05:05:25PM +1100, Michael Fox wrote: How do I determine if the zonefile contains what? As its encoded? man zdump Not yet fixed in Ubuntu 5.10. Yes my

Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2005-12-31 Thread Michael Fox
On 1/1/06, Rob Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/31/05, Michael Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/31/05, Christopher Vance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 31, 2005 at 05:05:25PM +1100, Michael Fox wrote: How do I determine if the zonefile contains what? As its encoded? man

[SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2005-12-30 Thread Michael Fox
Hi, Someone mentioned something that I thought might be relevant to a few others. Basically we all know the /usr/share/timezone/Australia/Sydney is encoded with relevant daylight savings changes. But it appears this year daylight savings is going to be extended by a week I believe to work with

Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2005-12-30 Thread Voytek Eymont
On Sat, December 31, 2005 7:57 am, Michael Fox wrote: Hi, Someone mentioned something that I thought might be relevant to a few others. Basically we all know the /usr/share/timezone/Australia/Sydney is encoded with relevant daylight savings changes. on this subject, apart from the fact I

Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2005-12-30 Thread Ken Foskey
On Sat, 2005-12-31 at 09:04 +1100, Voytek Eymont wrote: more pertinent is that my ntpd is not really keeping my clock updated ntp is network time protocol. It keeps UTC in sync not daylight savings which is offset from UTC. ntpd will only reset the clock by a few microseconds. you start this

Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2005-12-30 Thread Voytek Eymont
On Sat, December 31, 2005 12:18 pm, Ken Foskey wrote: On Sat, 2005-12-31 at 09:04 +1100, Voytek Eymont wrote: ntp is network time protocol. It keeps UTC in sync not daylight savings which is offset from UTC. ntpd will only reset the clock by a few microseconds. you start this with

Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2005-12-30 Thread Howard Lowndes
The last time the time zone changed was for the SY Olympics and a new modified zone file was supplied (at least from RH). With FC the ntpd daemon handles the time adjustment at boot and if there is a /etc/ntp/step-tickers file with a ntpd server in it then a sync gets done to that server as

Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2005-12-30 Thread Howard Lowndes
firewall...? check for udp/123 Voytek Eymont wrote: On Sat, December 31, 2005 12:18 pm, Ken Foskey wrote: On Sat, 2005-12-31 at 09:04 +1100, Voytek Eymont wrote: ntp is network time protocol. It keeps UTC in sync not daylight savings which is offset from UTC. ntpd will only reset the

Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2005-12-30 Thread Chris Deigan
ntpdate -s au.pool.ntp.org On 12/31/05, Voytek Eymont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, December 31, 2005 12:18 pm, Ken Foskey wrote: On Sat, 2005-12-31 at 09:04 +1100, Voytek Eymont wrote: ntp is network time protocol. It keeps UTC in sync not daylight savings which is offset from UTC.

Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2005-12-30 Thread Voytek Eymont
On Sat, December 31, 2005 1:46 pm, Chris Deigan wrote: ntpdate -s au.pool.ntp.org thanks, Chris, yes, I rogot the '-s' On 12/31/05, Voytek Eymont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs:

Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2005-12-30 Thread Voytek Eymont
On Sat, December 31, 2005 2:00 pm, Voytek Eymont wrote: On Sat, December 31, 2005 1:46 pm, Chris Deigan wrote: ntpdate -s au.pool.ntp.org thanks, Chris, yes, I rogot the '-s' oops, I'm still missing something, /var/log/messages has: Dec 31 13:59:16 koala ntpdate[32449]: no server

Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2005-12-30 Thread Howard Lowndes
man ntpdate try the -b and the -u options, the -s option merely changes where the logging happens. -b forces the time to be altered instead of slewed -u uses unpriv src ports, but I still think you should be checking your firewalling. Voytek Eymont wrote: On Sat, December 31, 2005 2:00

Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2005-12-30 Thread Michael Fox
On 12/31/05, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the moment, according to the zone files, DST ends on Apr 2 in all states that have DST, which strikes me as being a week later than normal. How do I determine if the zonefile contains what? As its encoded? Thanks -- SLUG - Sydney Linux

Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2005-12-30 Thread Howard Lowndes
/usr/sbin/zdump -v Australia/NSW On FC the files are in /usr/share/zoneinfo and subdirs Michael Fox wrote: On 12/31/05, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the moment, according to the zone files, DST ends on Apr 2 in all states that have DST, which strikes me as being a week later

Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2005-12-30 Thread Michael Fox
On 12/31/05, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /usr/sbin/zdump -v Australia/NSW Thanks, it looks like the zoneinfo files on my osx 10.4 machine don't include that extra week, as I suspected. Australia/NSW Sat Mar 25 15:59:59 2006 UTC = Sun Mar 26 02:59:59 2006 EST isdst=1 Australia/NSW

Re: [SLUG] Timezone/Daylight savings query.

2005-12-30 Thread Howard Lowndes
Rather looks that way. When did you last run an update? I think it is part of the glibc package. Here's the one off the latest FC4: $ /usr/sbin/zdump -v Australia/NSW|grep 2006 Australia/NSW Sat Apr 1 15:59:59 2006 UTC = Sun Apr 2 02:59:59 2006 EST isdst=1 gmtoff=39600 Australia/NSW Sat