Re: LTS worth anything? (was: Re: [SLUG] Announcement roundup from October meeting)

2009-11-01 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/11/2 Del > One of the things that the stable distros tend to miss out on is having the > latest updated device drivers.  What it sounds like you're doing is trying to > get stuff working that while not bleeding-edge, probably does require updated > kernels and recent device drivers.  So it

Re: LTS worth anything? (was: Re: [SLUG] Announcement roundup from October meeting)

2009-11-01 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009, Robert Collins wrote: > Ubuntu LTS gets 6 monthly driver-only updates :). Which can be a good and bad thing. Adrian, who has been bitten once or twice in the past from the driver updates to LTS. Stupid SCSI firmware. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - htt

Re: LTS worth anything? (was: Re: [SLUG] Announcement roundup from October meeting)

2009-11-01 Thread Robert Collins
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 11:14 +1100, Del wrote: > > One of the things that the stable distros tend to miss out on is > having > the latest updated device drivers. What it sounds like you're doing > is > trying to get stuff working that while not bleeding-edge, probably > does > require updated k

Re: LTS worth anything? (was: Re: [SLUG] Announcement roundup from October meeting)

2009-11-01 Thread Del
Amos Shapira wrote: The goal of trying to stick with LTS was to get a stable system - one where Skype will work with my webcam, mic and speaker, Firefox won't blow up on me and play Flash. I'm now with 9.04 which took a while to get Speaker working and mic doesn't work, I don't know whether it's

Re: LTS worth anything? (was: Re: [SLUG] Announcement roundup from October meeting)

2009-11-01 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/11/1 Robert Collins : > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS > > To get the LTS updated a 'stable release update' is needed - SRU: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates. When an individual fix is > backported its called an SRU - see below for 'backports', which is a > whole other thing. Thank

Re: LTS worth anything? (was: Re: [SLUG] Announcement roundup from October meeting)

2009-10-31 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 13:03 +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: > That's generally what I'd expect, based on my experience with Debian > and CentOS, and why I tried to stick to it - I usually don't care > about having latest versions (as long as the current one does the job) > and I don't have too much sp

Re: LTS worth anything? (was: Re: [SLUG] Announcement roundup from October meeting)

2009-10-31 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/10/31 Robert Collins : > On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 23:25 +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: >> Speaking of Ubuntu LTS - does anyone see real value in sticking to it? > > So LTS is all about stable [e.g. nothing changed that doesn't have to be > changed]. It has the following: >  - regular point releases w

Re: LTS worth anything? (was: Re: [SLUG] Announcement roundup from October meeting)

2009-10-31 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 23:25 +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: > 2009/10/31 Robert Collins > > > > A small note: if you have Hardy, the ISO won't help, you should upgrade > > via update-manager -c -d (or wait 6 more months for Lucid which will be > > a LTS release). > > Speaking of Ubuntu LTS - does anyo

LTS worth anything? (was: Re: [SLUG] Announcement roundup from October meeting)

2009-10-31 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/10/31 Robert Collins > > A small note: if you have Hardy, the ISO won't help, you should upgrade > via update-manager -c -d (or wait 6 more months for Lucid which will be > a LTS release). Speaking of Ubuntu LTS - does anyone see real value in sticking to it? I tried to stick to Hardy becau