Re: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-13 Thread Jeff Waugh
> > GR> RAID is not backup. RAID adds disk redundancy, no more. > > > > Raid can also do mirroring... or any combination of a lot of things, > > depending on the number of disks, the way you partition etc... > > That has nothing to do with backup though. It's 100% about disk redundancy, > and t

Re: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-13 Thread Jeff Waugh
> GR> RAID is not backup. RAID adds disk redundancy, no more. > > Raid can also do mirroring... or any combination of a lot of things, > depending on the number of disks, the way you partition etc... That has nothing to do with backup though. It's 100% about disk redundancy, and that is all RAI

Re: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-13 Thread Graeme Robinson
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, David wrote: > The moral of this story is: backup with RAID is better than RAID without > backup.. RAID is not backup. RAID adds disk redundancy, no more. -=-=-==-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Graeme Robinson - Graenet consulting www.graenet.com - internet solutions -=-=-=-=-

Re: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-13 Thread dazza
On 13 Feb 2003, Jon Biddell wrote: > Bit expensive - check the prices on www.programmersparadise.com.au - I > think that size is about $153. > > Jon > > > OK so I am getting a new harddrive (as a second HD) from my local PC store, and > > am thinking of a 40gb (or 60gb) Seagate 7200rpm 3y for $179

Re: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-13 Thread Terry Collins
Adam W wrote: > > Then again - you may find your tapes are buggered and cant retrieve any > data off that either! Shhez People! It is a standard part of admin work to regularly test your backup is working. You should run a restore at least monthly. -- Terry Collins {:-)}}} email: terryc at

Re: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-13 Thread John Clarke
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:14:19AM +1100, Adam W wrote: > > > > The moral of this story is: backup with RAID is better than RAID > > > without backup. > > > > ITYM backup *without* RAID is better than RAID without backup. > > Although, it does protect you from a blown motor in one of the drives

Re: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-13 Thread Christopher Samuel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Friday 14 Feb 2003 10:09 am, John Clarke wrote: > ITYM backup *without* RAID is better than RAID without backup. Agreed. And backup *with* RAID'ed SCSI disks is better still. Jon, I am *so* thankful for that Netstrada of yours! cheers, Chris - -- Chri

RE: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-13 Thread Adam W
> > The moral of this story is: backup with RAID is better than RAID > > without backup. > > ITYM backup *without* RAID is better than RAID without backup. Although, it does protect you from a blown motor in one of the drives - without losing a day/week/months data. Then again - you may find you

Re: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-13 Thread John Clarke
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 06:24:00PM +1100, David wrote: > I went to the trouble of installing a hardware RAID card (anyone want to > buy it?). When the data on one drive was corrupted by a drive fault, the > other drive dutifully mirrored it so I had TWO corrupted sets of data. Software RAID will

RE: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-13 Thread Matt M
At 16:54 13/02/2003, David wrote: yes.. but what about reliability? is there a difference? I need two new drives, but I much prefer reliability to size (I'm told that size isn't everything ;-) David I've got two of those Seagate drives (60GB). They're a little slower than, say, the newest

Re: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-12 Thread David
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Carl G Lewis wrote: > On Thursday 13 February 2003 16:54, David wrote: > > yes.. but what about reliability? is there a difference? I need two new > > drives, but I much prefer reliability to size (I'm told that size isn't > > everything ;-) > > Moral of the story: > ASSUME

Re: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-12 Thread Carl G Lewis
On Thursday 13 February 2003 16:54, David wrote: > yes.. but what about reliability? is there a difference? I need two new > drives, but I much prefer reliability to size (I'm told that size isn't > everything ;-) Every time I go see the friendly chinese guy down at my local pc shop for a new dri

RE: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-12 Thread David
February 2003 3:49 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SLUG] Hard Drives > > On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 14:32, Andrewd wrote: > > OK so I am getting a new harddrive (as a second HD) from my local PC > store, and > > am thinking of a 40gb (or 60gb) Seag

RE: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-12 Thread Shanna Daly
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2003 3:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Hard Drives On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 14:32, Andrewd wrote: > OK so I am getting a new harddrive (as a second HD) from my local PC store, and > am thinking of a 40gb (o

Re: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-12 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 14:32, Andrewd wrote: > OK so I am getting a new harddrive (as a second HD) from my local PC store, and > am thinking of a 40gb (or 60gb) Seagate 7200rpm 3y for $179.00, what do people > think, and what are their experiences. I got an 80Gb the other day, for $209 - without sh

Re: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-12 Thread Jon Biddell
Bit expensive - check the prices on www.programmersparadise.com.au - I think that size is about $153. Jon > OK so I am getting a new harddrive (as a second HD) from my local PC store, and > am thinking of a 40gb (or 60gb) Seagate 7200rpm 3y for $179.00, what do people > think, and what are their

RE: [SLUG] Hard drives

2003-01-30 Thread Jon Biddell
> 1)The drive bays are of the 'Lazer" brand, whilst the box > says they are hot > swappable, I have some reservations about doing this, for > fear of spiking the drive and damaging it or the others on > the machine. I know that one has to be present in the machine > for the bios to detect t

RE: [SLUG] Hard drives

2003-01-30 Thread Jon Biddell
> 1)The drive bays are of the 'Lazer" brand, whilst the box > says they are hot > swappable, I have some reservations about doing this, for > fear of spiking the drive and damaging it or the others on > the machine. I know that one has to be present in the machine > for the bios to detect t