Re: [SLUG] difficult recruiters.

2003-02-21 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
On Fri 21 Feb, Anand Kumria bloviated thus: > I don't think so - they have to demonstrate to you that it is worth your > time dealing with them. More to the point: I want them to demonstrate why I should give them a chunk of my salary. -- Rev Simon Rumble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> www.rumble.net Send

Re: [SLUG] difficult recruiters.

2003-02-20 Thread Anand Kumria
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 03:09:12PM +1100, Matt wrote: > > | It's completely unreasonable for such companies to dictate to the people > | who they depend on for their mere existence (the technical talent) and > | discriminate against those who don't happen to use their (poor) choice > | of internal

Re: [SLUG] difficult recruiters.

2003-02-20 Thread Ken Foskey
On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 12:44, Brad Thomson wrote: > On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 12:55:54PM +1100, Jon Biddell wrote: > > > > The simple solution is either; > > > > A. Send them a PDF file > > > > Or > > > > B. Rename your resume.txt to resume.doc > > > > Either way they'll still read it. > > Nope,

Re: [SLUG] difficult recruiters.

2003-02-19 Thread Mike MacCana
This discussion began on the list. I'd like to keep it there. On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 16:34, Russell Davies wrote: > ; Its significantly better. We're using an open documented format, that > ; any application can support should it wish to. > ; > ; Even better, we're using a tool designed for the j

Re: [SLUG] difficult recruiters.

2003-02-19 Thread Mike MacCana
On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 15:50, Russell Davies wrote: > ; Ie, I think this war is better won by making .doc on Linux *not* an > ; issue than an issue. > ; > ; After a while, we can stop sending the .docs and send each other .sxw > ; directly. > > That is fundamentally no better than using word docu

Re: [SLUG] difficult recruiters.

2003-02-19 Thread Mike MacCana
On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 15:33, Russell Davies wrote: > ; > (or as has already been suggested, use something like abiword > ; > which can write out rtf then just rename it to a ".doc" so it > ; > opens fine in M$ word) > ; > ; Or OpenOffice. Save as -> MS Word 97/2000/XP. > ; > ; Okay, the proprieta

Re: [SLUG] difficult recruiters.

2003-02-19 Thread Mike MacCana
On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 14:49, David Fitch wrote: > (or as has already been suggested, use something like abiword > which can write out rtf then just rename it to a ".doc" so it > opens fine in M$ word) Or OpenOffice. Save as -> MS Word 97/2000/XP. Okay, the proprietary document format sucks, but

Re: [SLUG] difficult recruiters.

2003-02-19 Thread Matt
| It's completely unreasonable for such companies to dictate to the people | who they depend on for their mere existence (the technical talent) and | discriminate against those who don't happen to use their (poor) choice | of internal documentation You have to show these recruiters that you can

Re: [SLUG] difficult recruiters.

2003-02-19 Thread David Fitch
On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 12:14, Brad Thomson wrote: > Nope, PDF files generally go in the too hard basket due to lack of ability > to easily edit them. > > A couple of the agencies have databases that not only accept Word files for > input natively, but only work with specific versions of Word, which

Re: [SLUG] difficult recruiters.

2003-02-19 Thread Brad Thomson
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 12:55:54PM +1100, Jon Biddell wrote: > > The simple solution is either; > > A. Send them a PDF file > > Or > > B. Rename your resume.txt to resume.doc > > Either way they'll still read it. Nope, PDF files generally go in the too hard basket due to lack of ability to ea

Re: [SLUG] difficult recruiters.

2003-02-19 Thread Gonzalo Servat
On 20/02/2003 1:21 PM +1100 Michael Lake wrote: Yeah so company ABC Holdings Corporation does not use an agency but puts three of its low level managers onto the job of vetting all applications. 3 x $60.00 / hour = $180 / hour round it to say $200/hour 300 applications for the Windows sys admin.

Re: [SLUG] difficult recruiters.

2003-02-19 Thread Michael Lake
Dinesh Birlasekaran wrote: > The commission rate is ridiculous. 20% of the total salary (per annum), > so if you get a 100K job, the employer has to pay 20K in cash within 30days. > I think that is way too much. I mean sure the guy is finding you a job, > but 20K for one placement? I find th

RE: [SLUG] difficult recruiters.

2003-02-19 Thread Dinesh Birlasekaran
- From: Jon Biddell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 9:56 AM To: 'Kevin Saenz'; 'Russell Davies' Cc: 'Sydney Linux User Group' Subject: RE: [SLUG] difficult recruiters. The simple solution is either; A. Send them a PDF file Or B. Rename

RE: [SLUG] difficult recruiters.

2003-02-19 Thread Jon Biddell
tion?" and Bush replies "We kept the receipts." > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > On Behalf Of Kevin Saenz > Sent: Thursday, 20 February 2003 12:18 > To: Russell Davies > Cc: Sydney Linux User Group > Subject: Re:

Re: [SLUG] difficult recruiters.

2003-02-19 Thread Michael Lake
Kevin Saenz wrote: > > > I'm thinking of something like a public blacklist of recruitment agencies > > that SLUGers can boycott. I'd like to hear suggestions or discussion on > > what we can do about this increasingly frequent annoyance. Getting such > > an activity mentioned in a Newspaper would

Re: [SLUG] difficult recruiters.

2003-02-19 Thread Kevin Saenz
> I'm thinking of something like a public blacklist of recruitment agencies > that SLUGers can boycott. I'd like to hear suggestions or discussion on > what we can do about this increasingly frequent annoyance. Getting such > an activity mentioned in a Newspaper would also be of great benefit in >