Well said.
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> About the only useful technology I use that was never over-hyped is perl!
>
> Seriously, SOAP is getting a lo
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From: graham glass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:17 PM
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hi guys,
rather than thinking about "SOAP performance", i e
hi guys,
rather than thinking about "SOAP performance", i encourage
you to think about "performance of implementations of SOAP".
implementations of SOAP vary widely in performance.
for example, GLUE, our web services platform, achieves
around 700-800 messages/second on a standard PC. i recommen
About the only useful technology I use that was never over-hyped is perl!
Seriously, SOAP is getting a lot of hype and, from what I can tell from
these mail lists and professional contacts in my region, it is being
extensively misused. I like using SOAP for application integration where I
need s
If you look at the SOAP 1.1 specification
(http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/NOTE-SOAP-2508/), section 1.1 states:
A major design goal for SOAP is simplicity and extensibility. This means
that there are several features from traditional messaging systems and
distributed object systems that are n
At 11:47 AM 6/26/2001 -0700, Konstantin Gordiyenko wrote:
>I stronlgy believe that SOAP is just another hype.
That's fine. Don't use it then :-)
Cheers!
Rob
I personally think, the SOAP is just another buzz word. There is no point at
all...
Industry needs to make money somehow.
(CORBA, RMI, ...) to SOAP == new more powerfull hardware, money for
development, support...
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> From: Oleg Dulin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent:
Just for the sake of argument...
> 1. It goes through firewalls
There is really nothing keeping the firewall admin from openning up the
RMI or IIOP port.
> 2. The clients don't need to be written in Java
With CORBA this is not any issue.
One thing I can think of that's the advantage of SOAP i
What's the point?
1. Make messages human readable. Though no human will ever read these
messages.
2. Make messages self-describing. Though no computer will ever
understand these descriptions.
3. Make RPC simple. Most other RPCs are simpler.
4. Make RPC cross-platform. CORBA already does it. And it
http://ejbinfo.com/articles/00/10/28/0933234.shtml
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Why+use+SOAP+instead+of+CORBA%3F
Cheers,
Rob
At 02:27 PM 6/26/2001 -0400, Oleg Dulin wrote:
>So, I am just curious, what's the point of SOAP then ? Why can't we use
>RMI, or CORBA for language indepe
Here are some of the advantages of SOAP that I can think of:
1. It goes through firewalls
2. The clients don't need to be written in Java
Am I right?
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From: Oleg Dulin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 11:27 AM
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Subject: Re: S
So, I am just curious, what's the point of SOAP then ? Why can't we use
RMI, or CORBA for language independence ?
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Konstantin Gordiyenko wrote:
> I've done some tests once. Compared to Sun RMI, SOAP
> serialization/deserialization is 50-200 times slower, requires 5-20
> (ten
I've done some tests once. Compared to Sun RMI, SOAP
serialization/deserialization is 50-200 times slower, requires 5-20
(ten) times more memory and produces 5-20 (ten) times larger messages.
These ratios are mostly depend on the data structure, and almost don't
depend on the data size.
Ralf Bier
Oh my God, many of us know what is RMI (please take a look at the full
docs) and what is SOAP (see docs). When somebody says RMI over SOAP, it
means, with all respect, *some* RMI features somehow work. Of course,
there are good points in everything.
Sergei Meleshchuk
WMI
425-705-8547
-Origi
I need to know what could be the best design for the following scenerio...
I am writing a java service .. It needs to returns a java object ..How will
client written other than in java will understand ?
Hi, maybe a timeout parameter is set two short on your Apche Server
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Envoyé : mardi 26 juin 2001 16:41
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Objet : Problems with sending long arrays via SOAP! HELP!
Hi,
I running a benchm
Hi,
http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/soap/index.html describes an implementation
of RMI over SOAP and also has a link to a paper that examines performance
issues related to SOAP, comparisons with native RMI implementations, etc.
Nirmal.
Do you have bsf.jar in your clsspath ?
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I am running the SOAP calculator example from JBuilder4 and I get the
following error. I don't know w
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I am running the SOAP calculator example from JBuilder4 and I get the
following error. I don't know where to start to try to find the problem.
My calculator application runs, but when I hit the operation, such as 2 + 2
+, I get the error below.
I may not have deployed the calculator demo correc
Can't find the reference; however, about couple of month back I saw a
report with careful measurements, soap against CORBA and RMI. Basically,
SOAP is substantially slower and currently scales poorly, but, You know,
advantages are may be tremendous.
Sergei Meleshchuk
WMI
425-705-8547
-Origi
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I am able to generate the wsdl file using the toolkit but i am not able to
generate the service file
using the tool. I selected all the complext type in the window to generate
the wsdl file.
when i run the command to generate the service file
ie
servicegen wsdl file i am getting the exception
E
Ralf,
I have experience sending longer arrays than what you are sending, but only
with SOAP 2.1 and 2.2. I have not seen the error you are seeing.
If you are concerned about the performance sending large payloads from the
client, I highly recommend you move to SOAP 2.2. That version provides a
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How can I retrieve the length of a soap message?
Is there a Class, which enable me to get the length of
the complete message?
Or of parts of a message: Like -> Give me the length
of the XML String of the parameter list of the SOAP
body - and so on...
Greetings
Ralf
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Hi,
I running a benchmark test with Apache SOAP 2.0.
I do the following thing: I send to one service an
array of byte value. The service just sending this
back to the client: A simple Echo Service.
To see, how SOAP works with high data volume, I
increase this array continuously. When I reach a
a
Title: RE: Using SSL /HTTPS in Soap
take a look at the following links
http://xml.apache.org/websrc/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/xml-soap/java/docs/install/FAQ_Tomcat_SOAP_SSL.html
http://www.oreillynet.com/lpt/a/811
-husam abuzaydeh
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From: Sanjay Jeurkar [mailto:[EMAI
Hi,
are there any performance measurement materials about
SOAP against RMI in Web? Did somebody made a
benchmarktest with SOAP (and maybe RMI)?
I am looking for material to determine, if SOAP is
good enough to fullfil the requirements I need for a
project.
Greetings
Ralf
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Hi,
I am trying to use SSL in Soap2.2 by using Apache Tomcat 3.2.
I have configured Tomcat for SSL and it is working fine.
I want to access service like Address deployed on Apache through SSL by
using URL
https://localhost:8443/soap/servlet/rpcrouters from client using
GetAddress class.
For that
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