If you have a need for some some carbon fabric then you should check out the
specials that CARBCOM is currently offering.

CARBCOM is where I buy the carbon/S-glass fabric that I use on all of my
production wings and on the vacuum bagging DVD.
http://www.paonline.com/hayman/video.htm
It is rather hit or miss with CARBCOM. They make a big run of carbon fabric
and have stuff in stock for a while but then they run out for a long time.
In some cases, they will get a good deal on some carbon tow and buy a bunch
of it. Then they have it all woven into fabrics and have a big sale or
special to sell it all off. This is one of those times.

If you have any interest in carbon fabric, go to the link below and click on
"super specials".
http://www.carb.com/index.html

I will be buying some fabric at the 10 roll price. I'll at least buy a few
rolls of the stuff I normally use on production wings. I'll buy some other
types if I can find some people willing to share a roll of it. I only need
to buy a full roll of any one fabric type to get the ten roll price so I am
hoping to get a little help to share a full roll of some things I don't
normally use in production. I'll list below the fabric types I have in mind.
If you see anything else on the CARBCOM special list or in the regular
product list, just drop me an E mail and let me know what you would like to
get. If we get enough interest in any one fabric type, I'll go ahead and
order a roll.

1) The stuff I use on production wings is part number 3350-30TY. Ten roll
price is $6.40 per yard. 3.5 oz per square yard.

2) 3390-30TY This is the same stuff as number one above except it uses the
really expensive 1K carbon as the cross thread. It works the same way as the
stuff I normally use but some guys prefer to have the carbon cross threads.
Ten roll price is $15.80 per yard. 3.9 oz per square yard.

3) 3570-30TY This the balanced carbon cloth with 3K carbon in each
direction. Weight is 5.7 oz per square yard. I have used this on Logic HL
fuselages. It is a very common fabric which usually sells for about $22.00
per yard in about 40" widths. The ten roll price is $8.19 per yard for 30"
wide.

4) 1300-40T This is the very light and very expensive balanced carbon. It is
expensive because it is woven from the very expensive 1K carbon tow. You
normally pay close to $90 a yard for this stuff buying in small quantities.
Ten roll price is $44.00 a yard. This is 40" wide and 3.0 oz per square
yard. this one is not on CARBCOM's special sheet but just in regular stock.

5) 3480-30TY I have my eye on this stuff for highly stressed wings or parts
of wings which are highly stressed. It is the same as what I use for all
productiion wings now except that it uses 8 pics per inch of 3K carbon for
the cross threads. There is a type of construction I am considering which
may be aided buy having skin stiffness in the chordwise direction. Ten roll
price on this stuff is $7.15 per yard. If you are curious about the new
"weblets" construction idea, check the link below;
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248256

I'm posting this message in a number of different groups. If I get enough
responses I will do something like this; I'll order the rolls of carbon and
sell the stuff to others in smaller quantities. I may only sell in 5 or 10
yard batches or I may decide to sell whatever quantity people want. I'll
charge something like $5 for shipping supplies per order (I'll have to buy
some cardboard tubes to roll fabric on and some shipping boxes). I may
charge something like $2 a yard more than what I payed for it to cover my
time a little. Of course I'll pass along shipping costs from me to you. The
shipping cost from CARBCOM to me will be added on and that is usually
anywhere from $20- $50 per roll ($.20-$.50 per yard). The above numbers are
just off the top of my head and subject to reconsideration. I just wanted to
give some idea of the numbers you would be looking at. It is certainly going
to be a lot cheaper than any other price you are likely to find. CARBCOM
does sell cut yardage to anyone who wants it but you will pay the full
retail price per yard plus a cut fee plus shipping from Hawaii.

Drop me an E mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you have any interest in
any of this. I'll be in Canada for a couple weeks but I'll see what sort of
response I have when I get back.

Phil Barnes


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