Randy, I agree that there were some questionable conditions concerning Sam Girardi's lost "HERA". The bottom line is that it is a great smooth flying airplane. No matter how well you build a tool it will have it's limitations. I don't think the demise of Sam's Hera requires any further investigation. I just returned from the first SC2 contest, where there were at least 7 Heras competing. My prediction is that as long as Tom and Icare can procure Heras they will be popular. Larry Jolly Hera Driver and father of Chris Jolly "Hera Boy" RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]