!!!Right Tip Panel Loss!!! OK! Now I see what your saying. Right Rudder to gain speed than Left rudder to pull out of dive and keep the right short wing higher till you can get it down. The Right rudder threw me. So if you have plenty of speed just go to the Left rudder to keep the short wing up. Larry Taylor KF6JBG Assistant CD CVRC Visalia Fall Festival 2003 Oct 4th & 5th Club Web is http://www.cvrcsoaring.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "ewilson12000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Larry Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Question on the Death Spiral from Tip Pannel Loss
Larry That is what I did. With a lot of height right rudder and full down gave me enough speed for the short wing side to support the plane. Then I pulled up to raise the nose and full LEFT rudder was used to hold the wing up. Speed was the secret here. Had to have enough lift to support the short wing side. This took a lot of speed. Since I was near the top of the launch I had a slim chance. It was all over in seconds. The dive looked more like a vertical barrel row instead of a spin. If a spin was allow to happen there would have been no chance of pulling it out as the rudder would have been blocked out from any air going over it. It was the down elevator that made it work. The pullout was at less than 20 foot altitude and the plane was going like a bat out of hell. I hope this doesn't confuse you and on another plane with a less effective rudder it may not work and at lower launch height it would not have worked either. I was lucky this time. In 30+ years flying sailplanes this is the third time I have had something like this happen. Only second successful save. If I was you I would not worry about it too much. Once every ten years is not too bad. Edwin Wilson --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Larry Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Question?? Why would you want to roll your sailplane into the short wing > when you lost your tip on that side?? > I have not had this happen to myself. I've seen it and every time they > have saved there plane. Am I wrong in my thinking. I always thought that you > need to keep the short wing high and the long normal wing low. > I go over in my head what to do if something happens before I go and fly.. > If I get a early Pop Off what do I do? A late Pop Off what do I do?. If the > retrieval line hangs up on the Elevator, what do I do?. If I get radio > interference what do I do? If the Tip breaks off what do I do?. When flying > a power plane and its going to crash I Kill The Engine before it hits but > that not used here. I answer these question to myself so that its fresh in > my mind When something happens I don't want to think about it to long I want > to react to it by planning ahead. > If Edwin is correct in what he said he did. My sailplane would be in the > ground if it had happen to me. > Is he right ? Or his my planning right? > > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 6:58 AM > Subject: [RCSE] WARNING BOT ARF PROBLEMS > First launch at the Nat's ( I was tapping and NOT pulling hard )in a 15 mph > wind and the right outer panel blew off. I was able with FULL right rudder > and a lot of down to get some control back and prevent the death spiral. > > Edwin Wilson > > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.