Could it have been a robbe Silentus? It uses the same type of construction as the Twinstar and there is no covering of any sort :-)! Quite stylish and quite slow! About HLG size, looks a bit like a FOKA 4 (swept fin, et cetera). Tord, Sweden -- If reply difficulties - use [EMAIL PROTECTED] When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]