Dave and Tom, We just purchased a Rahm retriever and are very satisfied with it. Call Cy Rham 310 866 2405. He is in CA so watch the time. He was very cordial to me and delivered a unit in about three weeks. Bear in mind that this unit runs on 6 volts and takes a little skill to operate properly. We have had a few tangles as folks learn to use it properly - wear a glove!! - but most have caught on very quickly and our launch speed has improved a whole lot and no walking ! Jim MacLean ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]