Paul Klissner wrote: > Maybe there is wave lift? I live in San Mateo, CA about 5 miles > or so from the Santa Cruz mountains to the west overlooking > the Pacific, towering far above my local hill in the distance. It's going to get crowded where you fly. It's probity caused by a sea breeze off the water. Cool air being sucked onto the warmer land and rising toward the hi point of land. The east coast guys can see this on Long Island, you can tell were the coast is from 50 miles out to sea. In the summer there's a line of clouds from Coney Island to Montuke Point about a mile in from the coast. If your flying a TD ship on the slope it doesn't take much wind to stay up. When I got my 8 hour slope, at Camelback PA, I had slope lift up to over 5000', (How high is a Paragon when the wings and body merge into a dot?). When a thermal formed in the valley it would suck the wind off the hill for twenty minutes, but when the thermal, (you could see the cloud), got over the hill you got the slope lift back. Rich RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]