--- Rick Van Clief <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can't log on to any of the addresses I normally use.  Is the site
> down or 
> have they changed their address, etc.
> 
I got there via
http://amber.aae.uiuc.edu/~m-selig/ads.html

Here's a really useful version of the UIUC database:
http://www.nasg.com/afdb/list-polar-e.phtml

and there's Mike Garton's excellent version at:
http://soaring.cnde.iastate.edu/calcs/frames.shtml


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