I already got a number of answers! And it is clear that: A mentor is more important than 'brand-x' servos. There is no 'right' answer. In spite of this I want to explain that I am only hoping to see if there is what I would call 'statistical' consensus. With the incredible amount of combined experience and knowledge on this list, I have to believe that there would be a common denominator - setups that are generally agreed to work more often than not. I ask for a leap of faith - and not a discussion about 'balsa vs. foam' and 'definitive radio vs. 4-channel'. Call it like you see it - describe the specific system you think is most likely to be appropriate. As example I gave to actual cases - the wife wanting to buy a xmas present for the hubby, and a dad who wants to surprise their child. It is assumed that in all cases, the prospective flier is invited to watch and touch with our club... thanks a RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]