In a message dated 12/24/00 2:22:06 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Which of the Hollyday tubing did you use? It sounds like exactly what I want. >> I use the Hollyday Designs 3M standard tubing. Its one step below their heavy duty stuff. It is by far the greatest high start tubing I have ever used or seen. When I purchased it I thought all the stuff they said on their site was simply advertising, but I am convinced. I have launched my 134" (80 oz) Lovesong, 134" (75 oz) Core One (likes lots of tension!), and my 4 meter (70oz) Algebra 4 meter. These planes are the limit of the design specs Hollyday puts forth, but I would feel comfortable with even a little bit more plane on the line. I would not use it for any light two meter. I do not have any stock or business relations with the company, other than being a very happy customer. http://www.hollyday.com/ Kristopher Harig RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]