I am unsure if this is response to an old post, but if it is not and old
post, then:


Darwin, good proposal for thought!

After reading Darwin’s comment, I have to agree with his suggestion to
combine the modern RES class with Open.  Back when Visalia first
proposed an RES class, before the AVA and its equivalents, RES was
touted by many to be the builder class as well as the partially the
woody-nostalgia class.  Those of us that were not as quick with our
thumbs, or relished a somewhat less stressful class, welcomed it.  The
class is like other classes in the AMA schedule, it represents a way for
upcoming pilots to have fun, as well as permit older or less competitive
pilots to still participate.  But as in nearly all types of RC soaring,
technology breeds advancement, design, and this necessitates advanced
composites, and we get to the point where to be competitive, at least in
some fashion, you have to have deep pockets.  Obviously, there are those
of us who still build, only with CF now rather than wood, but the
majority of competitors nowadays just buy the best they can afford. 
Really, to be competitive, just buy a known ship and fly.

However, Darwin, how about bringing back a strict “builder of the
model” rule event?  What was a “true modeler” anyway?  This opens
it all up to variety, yet might retain the idea and some excitement. 
None of this glue servos in, trim and fly stuff, but perhaps require the
builder to bring the mold to show.  Wood, well, wood is wood, but still
not prebuilt wood like an AVA.  Those who obviously build composites
from mold would probably want to be in the Open class anyway, but those
who want to build, experiment and enjoy might find an event not
something that really is being placed on the back burner of a contest. 
We encourage differences between juniors, seniors and open in the AMA,
but is there really a difference there either?  Buy a hot ship and place
it in the hands of a upcoming junior and he or she becomes a major
contender.  We do not have separate events, that lead up to the top,
like dirt cars, sprint cars, Bush series, then NASCAR, probably because
of numbers.  On the other hand, we do have a “grey cup” for those of
us not as quick with our thumbs, or sight.  What is really the intent
here, an old RES equivalent?
I might also like to ask why so many classes?  Is it for money making
purposes of the clubs, or is it to increase the pilot’s flying
opportunities if they travel?  Recent posts here and in other groups
mention that some contests will not become prominent until they are of
sufficient day duration and flying opportunities to make them
attractive.  For myself, I find that DLG/HLG offer me the opportunity to
fly much more than any of the other TD events.  These contests off more
of other items as well.  


OK, for all those who expect this, or disagree, or even think I am
complaining,  back to my regular Thorazine treatments. ;-)

Chris Adams




>From Darwin:
Come on guys, lay off 2 Meter. I'll bet most have not even given it a 
serious try. If you did, I believe you'd like the challenge. It will 
improve all aspects of your flying.
 
I remember years ago when RES was envisioned. It was supposed to be a 
simple class with simple airplanes for those not interested in 
spending big $$$ on Open class planes. Well look what happened. It 
actually became a 3 channel Open class, called RES. For the most part, 
you have to have the high dollar RES moldie to be competitive. As a 
result, we had to add another Class, Woody. This is a true modelers 
Class.
 
You want a solution, dump RES and combine it with Open. After all, 
they are 3 channel Open class planes, launch as high and can range out 
quite far. The only real difference is landing. I see the better RES 
guys whooping the Open class guys anyway, so lump them all together.
 
Just some thoughts. Now, my second cup of coffee!!!
 
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ


> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: testing
> From: Darwin Barrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, July 27, 2008 11:17 am
> To: Jeff Reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <Soaring@airage.com>
> The tests are going through but my post regarding 2 Meter must be  
> being blocked for some reason. The post is nothing in the scheme of  
> things. I'm getting pissed.
> Darwin N. Barrie
> Chandler AZOn Jul 27, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Jeff Reid wrote:
> >> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 07:24:01 -0700
> >> From: Darwin Barrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: Soaring@airage.com
> >> Subject: Testing
> >> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> I've attempted 2 posts over the past couple of days and they  
> >> haven't  posted. What's up?
> >
> > I've had the same issue. I've posted a few times and nwever see the
> > posts show up. I'm receiving the archived version if this makes any
> > difference.
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