Fred,

It seems to me that Joe already gave us a treat (and a
beating) several years ago at the 2 Day Rose Bowl Soaring
Festival.  If I remember correctly he flew an EPP Foamie
TG-3 to first place in 2M, and without any landing
arrestor.  Joe is a gentleman and an outstanding pilot.  I
have learned, and still learning, a lot from him.  It has
been said (tongue in cheek) Joe can thermal a brick. I
believe it.

Pete Olsen
SWSA

-----Original Message-----
From: FRED SAGE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 5:00 PM
To: John Erickson; Dan; mike reagan; Soaring List
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Who won Visalia?


The overall winner at Visalia is generally considered to be
the highest
score in the unlimited category.  That's certainly the way
the trophies are
presented.  The reason for this is almost everyone
participates in unlimited
so there's many more contestants in unlimited than in any
other class or
even in all other classes combined.  However,  the overall
winner or highest
score obtained in the unlimited class is not necessarily
the highest score
achieved in the contest  as it's not unusual for a two
meter glider to
outscore the unlimited gliders with the tricky landing
tasks.
Unfortunately,  the only way the winner of the two meter
class would be
considered the overall winner is if he flew his two meter
glider in the
unlimited class.  Maybe Joe will give us a treat next year
by trying that
scenario.  An even more remarkable achievement is Mike
Reagan also beating
the overall winner while flying his AVA in the RES class.
It's absolutely
unbelievable that he was able to beat many of the best
glider pilots in the
country in a landing task that required extreme precision
with an RES
glider. Way to go Mike!

Regarding your question about Grey Eagle participants,
they appear to
designated
by an astrisks.  Don McNamee finished second in RES with a
score of 2448,
so he won  the Grey Eagle cup.

Fred


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "mike reagan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"Soaring List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Who won Visalia?


> A 2 meter has scored in the top ten the last three years
running.  They
just
> don't score it as overall; they score it by class.  Great
flying by Joe
and
> Mike.
>
> What happened to Grey Cup?
>
> JE
> --
> Erickson Architects
> John R. Erickson, AIA
>
>
> > From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 08:38:30 -0700 (PDT)
> > To: mike reagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [RCSE] Who won Visalia?
> >
> > It appears that a recalculation is in-order
> > http://www.cvrcsoaring.com/2003_leaders.htm
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > --- mike reagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>   Check the scores, First place Joe Wurts( 2 meter)
2555, second
> >> place Mike Reagan(RES) 2511, third place Jim Sneed
(open) 2508.
> >> Something is backwards here. AVA man
> >
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