Re: [EXTERNAL] Getting rid of Master/Slave nomenclature in Solr

2020-06-18 Thread Thomas Corthals
Since "overseer" is also problematic, I'd like to propose "orchestrator" as an alternative. Thomas Op vr 19 jun. 2020 04:34 schreef Walter Underwood : > We don’t get to decide whether “master” is a problem. The rest of the world > has already decided that it is a problem. > > Our task is to

Re: [EXTERNAL] Getting rid of Master/Slave nomenclature in Solr

2020-06-18 Thread Oakley, Craig (NIH/NLM/NCBI) [C]
Trying think of a term that both fresh (and yet sort of standard already) and appropriate: how about IndexFetcher instead of "Slave"? And then "Master" could be "FetchedIndex" or "FetchedSource" I think it could be beneficial to broaden the range of candidates.

Re: [EXTERNAL] Getting rid of Master/Slave nomenclature in Solr

2020-06-18 Thread Walter Underwood
I sometimes describe them as tightly-coupled and loosely-coupled. There is a vast difference in the amount of shared state in the two kinds of clusters. Old school clusters are essentially a REST system. The primary server knows nothing about the leeches. The replication only assumes that the

Re: [EXTERNAL] Getting rid of Master/Slave nomenclature in Solr

2020-06-18 Thread Trey Grainger
> > Let’s instead find a new good name for the cluster type. Standalone kind > of works > for me, but I see it can be confused with single-node. Yeah, I've typically referred to it as "standalone", but I don't think it's descriptive enough. I can see why some people have been calling it

Re: [EXTERNAL] Getting rid of Master/Slave nomenclature in Solr

2020-06-18 Thread Walter Underwood
We don’t get to decide whether “master” is a problem. The rest of the world has already decided that it is a problem. Our task is to replace the terms “master” and “slave” in Solr. wunder Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 18, 2020, at

Re: [EXTERNAL] Getting rid of Master/Slave nomenclature in Solr

2020-06-18 Thread Rahul Goswami
I agree with Phill, Noble and Ilan above. The problematic term is "slave" (not master) which I am all for changing if it causes less regression than removing BOTH master and slave. Since some people have pointed out Github changing the "master" terminology, in my personal opinion, it was not a

Re: [EXTERNAL] Getting rid of Master/Slave nomenclature in Solr

2020-06-18 Thread Phill Campbell
Master - Worker Master - Peon Master - Helper Master - Servant The term that is not wanted is “slave’. The term “master” is not a problem IMO. > On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Jan Høydahl wrote: > > I support Mike Drob and Trey Grainger. We shuold re-use the leader/replica > terminology from

Re: Solr 6.6.6 - Shards Whitelist Error

2020-06-18 Thread Jan Høydahl
Have you tried starting each node with -Dsolr.disable.shardsWhitelist=true to revert back to old behavior? Jan > 18. jun. 2020 kl. 17:23 skrev Ray W : > > Hi Everyone, > > We upgraded to solr 6.6.6 and a recurring error shows up as "shards > parameter value contained values not in the shards

Re: [EXTERNAL] Getting rid of Master/Slave nomenclature in Solr

2020-06-18 Thread Jan Høydahl
I support Mike Drob and Trey Grainger. We shuold re-use the leader/replica terminology from Cloud. Even if you hand-configure a master/slave cluster and orchestrate what doc goes to which node/shard, and hand-code your shards parameter, you will still have a cluster where you’d send updates to the

Re: Does 8.5.2 depend on 8.2.0

2020-06-18 Thread Phill Campbell
compile(group: 'org.springframework.boot',name: 'spring-boot-starter-web',version: '2.2.6.RELEASE') compile(group: 'javax.inject', name: 'javax.inject', version:'1') compile(group: 'javax.ws.rs', name: 'javax.ws.rs-api', version: '2.1.1') compile group: 'ch.qos.logback', name: 'logback-core',

Re: Does 8.5.2 depend on 8.2.0

2020-06-18 Thread Chris Hostetter
: Subject: Does 8.5.2 depend on 8.2.0 No. The code certainly doesn't, but i suppose it's possible some metadata somewhere in some pom file may be broken? : My build.gradle has this: : compile(group: 'org.apache.solr', name: 'solr-solrj', version:'8.5.2') : No where is there a reference to

Does 8.5.2 depend on 8.2.0

2020-06-18 Thread Phill Campbell
I use gradle to build my project. I noticed that in the build the jar it is using is 8.2.0. I don’t include that anywhere. I clear my grade cache and rebuild and I see this: $find . -name "solr*" ./modules-2/metadata-2.71/descriptors/org.apache.solr/solr-parent

Re: Getting rid of Master/Slave nomenclature in Solr

2020-06-18 Thread Chris Hostetter
First off: Forgive me if my comments/questions are redundent or uninformed bsaed o nthe larger discussion taking place. I have not caught up on the whole thread before replying -- but that's solely based on a lack of time on my part, not a lack of willingness to embrace this change. >From

Solr 6.6.6 - Shards Whitelist Error

2020-06-18 Thread Ray W
Hi Everyone, We upgraded to solr 6.6.6 and a recurring error shows up as "shards parameter value contained values not in the shards whitelist". I have attached the error log as well as configurations in solr.xml and solrconfig.xml. Solr 6.6 documentations doesn't cover setting up a shards

Re: Getting rid of Master/Slave nomenclature in Solr

2020-06-18 Thread Walter Underwood
Actually, the term “master” is a problem, so master/follower doesn’t work. GitLab is renaming the master branch to main. Rice University renamed College Masters to College Magisters in 2017. wunder Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jun 18,

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Getting rid of Master/Slave nomenclature in Solr

2020-06-18 Thread Mike Drob
I personally think that using Solr cloud terminology for this would be fine with leader/follower. The leader is the one that accepts updates, followers cascade the updates somehow. The presence of ZK or election doesn’t really change this detail. However, if folks feel that it’s confusing, then I

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Getting rid of Master/Slave nomenclature in Solr

2020-06-18 Thread John Gallagher
While on the topic of renaming roles, I'd like to propose finding a better term than "overseer" which has historical slavery connotations as well. Director, perhaps? John Gallagher On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 8:48 AM Jason Gerlowski wrote: > +1 to rename master/slave, and +1 to choosing

Re: Getting rid of Master/Slave nomenclature in Solr

2020-06-18 Thread Mark H. Wood
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Getting rid of Master/Slave nomenclature in Solr

2020-06-18 Thread Jason Gerlowski
+1 to rename master/slave, and +1 to choosing terminology distinct from what's used for SolrCloud. I could be happy with several of the proposed options. Since a good few have been proposed though, maybe an eventual vote thread is the most organized way to aggregate the opinions here. I'm less

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Getting rid of Master/Slave nomenclature in Solr

2020-06-18 Thread Demian Katz
Regarding people having a problem with the word "master" -- GitHub is changing the default branch name away from "master," even in isolation from a "slave" pairing... so the terminology seems to be falling out of favor in all contexts. See:

Gettings interestingTerms from solr.MoreLikeThisHandler using SolrJ

2020-06-18 Thread Zander, Sebastian
Hello solr-fellows, i'm currently implementing the MoreLikeThis Feature in an e-commerce platform. I setup my solr.MoreLikeThisHandler in my solrconfig.xml like this: aid, eans, desclong list true 10 aid, eans, desclong 0 Running the following command

Re: Autocommit in SolrCloud with many shards

2020-06-18 Thread Bram Van Dam
Thanks, just created SOLR-14581 as an entry point. And sure, beers sound good! ;-) On 17/06/2020 23:13, Erick Erickson wrote: > Please raise a JIRA and attach your patch to that…. > > Best, > Erick > > P.S. Buy me some beers sometime if we’re even in the same place... > >> On Jun 17, 2020, at

Re: Getting rid of Master/Slave nomenclature in Solr

2020-06-18 Thread Atita Arora
+1 Noble and Ilan !! On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:51 AM Noble Paul wrote: > Looking at the code I see a 692 occurrences of the word "slave". > Mostly variable names and ref guide docs. > > The word "slave" is present in the responses as well. Any change in > the request param/response payload is

SolrCloud creates the data folder in solr.data.home instead of solr.core.name

2020-06-18 Thread Razvan-Daniel Mihai
It seems like my Email got lost the first time, so I'll give it a second try. -- Forwarded message - From: Razvan-Daniel Mihai Date: Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 3:28 PM Subject: SolrCloud creates the data folder in solr.data.home instead of solr.core.name To: Hello, I run a

Re: Log4J Logging to Http

2020-06-18 Thread Radu Gheorghe
Hi Florian, I don’t know the answer to your specific question, but I would like to suggest a different approach. Excuse me in advance, I usually hate suggesting different approaches. The reason why I suggest a different approach is because logging via HTTP can be blocking a thread e.g. until