Re: Including Small Amounts of New Data in Searches (MultiSearcher ?)

2011-01-10 Thread Jason Rutherglen
> most of the Solr sites I know of > have much larger indexes than ram and expect everything to work > smoothly Hmm... In that case, throttling the merges would probably help most, though, yes, that's not available today. In lieu of that, I'd run large merges during off-peak hours, or better yet,

Re: Including Small Amounts of New Data in Searches (MultiSearcher ?)

2011-01-09 Thread Lance Norskog
Ok. I was talking about what tools are available now- much better things are in the NRT work. I don't know how merges work now, in re multitasking and thread contention. Most of the Solr sites I know of have much larger indexes than ram and expect everything to work smoothly. Lance On Sun, Jan 9,

Re: Including Small Amounts of New Data in Searches (MultiSearcher ?)

2011-01-09 Thread Jason Rutherglen
> The older MergePolicies followed a strategy which is quite disruptive in an > NRT environment. Can you elaborate as to why (maybe we need to place this in a wiki)? If large merges are running in their own thread, they should not disrupt queries, eg, there won't be CPU contention. The IO conten

Re: Including Small Amounts of New Data in Searches (MultiSearcher ?)

2011-01-09 Thread Stephen Boesch
Thanks Lance for mentioning the MergePolicies and specifically this one contributed by LinkedIn. 2011/1/8 Lance Norskog > There are always slowdowns when merging new segments during indexing. > A MergePolicy decides when to merge segments. The older MergePolicies > followed a strategy which is

Re: Including Small Amounts of New Data in Searches (MultiSearcher ?)

2011-01-08 Thread Lance Norskog
There are always slowdowns when merging new segments during indexing. A MergePolicy decides when to merge segments. The older MergePolicies followed a strategy which is quite disruptive in an NRT environment. There is a new feature in 3.x & the trunk called 'BalancedSegmentMergePolicy'. This new

Re: Including Small Amounts of New Data in Searches (MultiSearcher ?)

2011-01-06 Thread Stephen Boesch
Thanks Yonik, Using a stable release of Solr what would you suggest to do - given MultiSearch's demise and the other work is still ongoing? 2011/1/6 Yonik Seeley > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Stephen Boesch wrote: > > Solr/lucene newbie here .. > > > > We would like searches against a so

Re: Including Small Amounts of New Data in Searches (MultiSearcher ?)

2011-01-06 Thread Yonik Seeley
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Stephen Boesch wrote: > Solr/lucene newbie here .. > > We would like searches against a solr/lucene index to immediately be able to > view data that was added.  I stress "small" amount of new data given that > any significant amount would require excessive  latency

Including Small Amounts of New Data in Searches (MultiSearcher ?)

2011-01-06 Thread Stephen Boesch
Solr/lucene newbie here .. We would like searches against a solr/lucene index to immediately be able to view data that was added. I stress "small" amount of new data given that any significant amount would require excessive latency. Looking around, i'm wondering if the direction would be a Mult