Re: schemaless vs schema based core

2016-01-22 Thread Walter Underwood
Yo. That is the truth. You can get stuff indexed with an automatic schema, but if you want to make your customers happy, tune it. wunder Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jan 22, 2016, at 6:22 PM, Erick Erickson wrote: > > And, more genera

Re: schemaless vs schema based core

2016-01-22 Thread Erick Erickson
And, more generally, schemaless makes a series of assumptions, any of which may be wrong. You _must_ hand-tweak your schema to squeeze all the performance out of Solr that you can. If your collection isn't big enough that you need to squeeze, don't bother FWIW, Erick On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at

Re: schemaless vs schema based core

2016-01-22 Thread Steve Rowe
Yes, and also underflow in the case of double/float. -- Steve www.lucidworks.com > On Jan 22, 2016, at 12:25 PM, Shyam R wrote: > > I think, schema-less mode might allocate double instead of float, long > instead of int to guard against overflow, which increases index size. Is my > assumption v

Re: schemaless vs schema based core

2016-01-22 Thread Shyam R
I think, schema-less mode might allocate double instead of float, long instead of int to guard against overflow, which increases index size. Is my assumption valid? Thanks On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Erick Erickson wrote: > I guess it's all about whether schemaless really supports > 1>

Re: schemaless vs schema based core

2016-01-21 Thread Erick Erickson
I guess it's all about whether schemaless really supports 1> all the docs you index. 2> all the use-cases for search. 3> the assumptions it makes scale to you needs. If you've established rigorous tests and schemaless does all of the above, I'm all for shortening the cycle by using schemaless. Bu

Re: schemaless vs schema based core

2016-01-21 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 1/21/2016 2:22 AM, Prateek Jain J wrote: > Thanks Erick, > > Yes, I took same approach as suggested by you. The issue is some developers > started with schemaless configuration and now they have started liking it and > avoiding restrictions (including increased time to deploy application, in

RE: schemaless vs schema based core

2016-01-21 Thread Prateek Jain J
l have some overhead vs the other; any thoughts around this? Regards, Prateek Jain Team: Totoro Mobile: +353 894 391716 -Original Message- From: Erick Erickson [mailto:erickerick...@gmail.com] Sent: 21 January 2016 02:20 AM To: solr-user Subject: Re: schemaless vs schema based core I would

Re: schemaless vs schema based core

2016-01-20 Thread Erick Erickson
I would really avoid schemaless in _any_ situation where I know the schema ahead of time. bq: But in my case, I am planning to use solrj (so, no spelling mistakes) On, I'm quite sure there'll be some kind of mistake sometime ;) I know of at at least one situation where a programming mistake in So

Re: schemaless vs schema based core

2016-01-20 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 1/20/2016 10:17 AM, Prateek Jain J wrote: What all I could gather from various blogs is, defining schema stops developers from accidently adding fields to solr. But in my case, I am planning to use solrj (so, no spelling mistakes). My point is: 1. Is there any advantage like performa