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2014-09-01 Thread Christoph Schmidt
Montag, 1. September 2014 14:50 An: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Betreff: Re: AW: Scaling to large Number of Collections And I would add another suggested requirement - "dormant collections" - collections which may once have been active, but have not seen any recent activity and can h

Re: AW: Scaling to large Number of Collections

2014-09-01 Thread Jack Krupansky
r? -- Jack Krupansky -Original Message- From: Christoph Schmidt Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 3:50 AM To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: AW: Scaling to large Number of Collections Yes, this would help us in our scenario. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Jack Krupansky [mailto

AW: Scaling to large Number of Collections

2014-09-01 Thread Christoph Schmidt
: solr-user@lucene.apache.org; Mark Miller Betreff: Re: Scaling to large Number of Collections Yeah, I second Mark's suggestion on reducing the stack size. The default on modern 64-bit boxes is usually 1024KB which adds up to a lot when you're running 5000 cores (5000 * 2 = 1MB). I th

AW: Scaling to large Number of Collections

2014-09-01 Thread Christoph Schmidt
Yes, this would help us in our scenario. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Jack Krupansky [mailto:j...@basetechnology.com] Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. August 2014 18:10 An: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Betreff: Re: Scaling to large Number of Collections We should also consider "lightly-sh

AW: Scaling to large Number of Collections

2014-09-01 Thread Christoph Schmidt
ing a new "user-id" field and combining user collections. Best Christoph -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Erick Erickson [mailto:erickerick...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. August 2014 18:04 An: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Betreff: Re: Scaling to large Number of Collections W

AW: Scaling to large Number of Collections

2014-09-01 Thread Christoph Schmidt
engar [mailto:andyetitmo...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. August 2014 17:53 An: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Betreff: Re: Scaling to large Number of Collections On 31 Aug 2014 13:24, "Mark Miller" wrote: > > > > On Aug 31, 2014, at 4:04 AM, Christoph Schmidt < christo

AW: Scaling to large Number of Collections

2014-09-01 Thread Christoph Schmidt
31, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Mark Miller wrote: > > > On Aug 31, 2014, at 4:04 AM, Christoph Schmidt < > christoph.schm...@moresophy.de> wrote: > > > > we see at least two problems when scaling to large number of > collections. I would like to ask the community, if th

AW: Scaling to large Number of Collections

2014-09-01 Thread Christoph Schmidt
Is there a Jira task for this? Thanks Christoph -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Mark Miller [mailto:markrmil...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. August 2014 14:24 An: solr-user Betreff: Re: Scaling to large Number of Collections > On Aug 31, 2014, at 4:04 AM, Christoph Schm

Re: Scaling to large Number of Collections

2014-08-31 Thread Shalin Shekhar Mangar
; On 31 Aug 2014 13:24, "Mark Miller" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 31, 2014, at 4:04 AM, Christoph Schmidt < > > christoph.schm...@moresophy.de> wrote: > > > > > > > > we see at least two problems when scaling to large numb

Re: Scaling to large Number of Collections

2014-08-31 Thread Mark Miller
t; > > On Aug 31, 2014, at 4:04 AM, Christoph Schmidt < > christoph.schm...@moresophy.de> wrote: > > > > > > we see at least two problems when scaling to large number of > collections. I would like to ask the community, if they are known and maybe > already ad

Re: Scaling to large Number of Collections

2014-08-31 Thread Jack Krupansky
apache.org Subject: Re: Scaling to large Number of Collections What is your access pattern? By that I mean do all the cores need to be searched at the same time or is it reasonable for them to be loaded on demand? This latter would impose the penalty of the first time a collection was accessed there

Re: AW: Scaling to large Number of Collections

2014-08-31 Thread Jack Krupansky
From: Christoph Schmidt Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 11:44 AM To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: AW: Scaling to large Number of Collections One collection has 2 replicas, no sharding, the collections are not that big. No, they are unfortunately not independent. There are collec

Re: Scaling to large Number of Collections

2014-08-31 Thread Erick Erickson
What is your access pattern? By that I mean do all the cores need to be searched at the same time or is it reasonable for them to be loaded on demand? This latter would impose the penalty of the first time a collection was accessed there would be a delay while the core loaded. I suppose I'm asking

Re: Scaling to large Number of Collections

2014-08-31 Thread Ramkumar R. Aiyengar
On 31 Aug 2014 13:24, "Mark Miller" wrote: > > > > On Aug 31, 2014, at 4:04 AM, Christoph Schmidt < christoph.schm...@moresophy.de> wrote: > > > > we see at least two problems when scaling to large number of collections. I would like to ask the commun

AW: Scaling to large Number of Collections

2014-08-31 Thread Christoph Schmidt
gle SolrCloud cluster" is not a supported scenario at this time. Certainly suggestions for future enhancement can be made though. -- Jack Krupansky -Original Message- From: Christoph Schmidt Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 4:04 AM To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: Scaling to l

Re: Scaling to large Number of Collections

2014-08-31 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 8/31/2014 8:58 AM, Joseph Obernberger wrote: > Could you add another field(s) to your application and use that instead of > creating collections/cores? When you execute a search, instead of picking > a core, just search a single large core but add in a field which contains > some core ID. This

Re: Scaling to large Number of Collections

2014-08-31 Thread Joseph Obernberger
at 8:23 AM, Mark Miller wrote: > > > On Aug 31, 2014, at 4:04 AM, Christoph Schmidt < > christoph.schm...@moresophy.de> wrote: > > > > we see at least two problems when scaling to large number of > collections. I would like to ask the community, if they are known

Re: Scaling to large Number of Collections

2014-08-31 Thread Mark Miller
> On Aug 31, 2014, at 4:04 AM, Christoph Schmidt > wrote: > > we see at least two problems when scaling to large number of collections. I > would like to ask the community, if they are known and maybe already > addressed in development: > We have a SolrCloud runni

Re: Scaling to large Number of Collections

2014-08-31 Thread Jack Krupansky
is not a supported scenario at this time. Certainly suggestions for future enhancement can be made though. -- Jack Krupansky -Original Message- From: Christoph Schmidt Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 4:04 AM To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: Scaling to large Number of Collections we se

Scaling to large Number of Collections

2014-08-31 Thread Christoph Schmidt
we see at least two problems when scaling to large number of collections. I would like to ask the community, if they are known and maybe already addressed in development: We have a SolrCloud running with the following numbers: - 5 Servers (each 24 CPUs, 128 RAM) - 13.000