Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/pwait

2015-03-04 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 08:10:57AM +0700, Robert Elz wrote: > Date:Wed, 4 Mar 2015 00:13:01 +0100 > From:Joerg Sonnenberger > Message-ID: <20150303231301.gb13...@britannica.bec.de> > > | It comes with a maintainance price. Add something better a version later > |

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/pwait

2015-03-03 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Wed, 4 Mar 2015 00:13:01 +0100 From:Joerg Sonnenberger Message-ID: <20150303231301.gb13...@britannica.bec.de> | It comes with a maintainance price. Add something better a version later | and it is significantly harder to get rid of the once shiny toy. Taken

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/pwait

2015-03-03 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 09:13:31PM +0100, Marc Balmer wrote: > Am 03.03.15 um 17:49 schrieb Joerg Sonnenberger: > > On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 03:58:56PM +, Christos Zoulas wrote: > >> For actionable items: > >> > >> pwait: > >>Should I remove pwait or leave it? Are there any features you want

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/pwait

2015-03-03 Thread Marc Balmer
Am 03.03.15 um 17:49 schrieb Joerg Sonnenberger: > On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 03:58:56PM +, Christos Zoulas wrote: >> For actionable items: >> >> pwait: >>Should I remove pwait or leave it? Are there any features you want added? > > Bring it up on tech-userlevel. > >> In general: >>Shoul

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/pwait

2015-03-03 Thread Marc Balmer
Am 03.03.15 um 16:58 schrieb Christos Zoulas: > For actionable items: > > pwait: >Should I remove pwait or leave it? Are there any features you want added? no. > > In general: >Should we have more concrete commit rules, or do we prefer that current >status quo which is to leave thing

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/pwait

2015-03-03 Thread Marc Balmer
Am 03.03.15 um 21:22 schrieb Greg Troxel: > > Marc Balmer writes: > >> Am 03.03.15 um 14:35 schrieb Greg Troxel: >>> >>> chris...@astron.com (Christos Zoulas) writes: >>> If we want to make every single change to go through tech-userlevel, we should institute a rule to do so. To my

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/pwait

2015-03-03 Thread Marc Balmer
Am 03.03.15 um 22:03 schrieb Greg Troxel: > > Marc Balmer writes: > >> I think you contradict yourself, when you say a) new programs in >> base are pretty rare, and b) we have too much "commit first, >> argue about appropriate later". > > Both are true; some/most "commit first discuss later" is

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/pwait

2015-03-03 Thread Marc Balmer
Am 03.03.15 um 21:32 schrieb Greg Troxel: > > Marc Balmer writes: > >>> I meant that adding to base was discuss-worthy because there's >>> a "bloat or necessary" question, not because of risk of >>> breakage. >> >> Sure. So how much "bloat" is pwait? Is it a huge piece of >> software or a sma

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/pwait

2015-03-03 Thread Greg Troxel
Marc Balmer writes: > I think you contradict yourself, when you say a) new programs in base > are pretty rare, and b) we have too much "commit first, argue about > appropriate later". Both are true; some/most "commit first discuss later" isn't about new programs. > While in some cases it makes

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/pwait

2015-03-03 Thread Greg Troxel
Marc Balmer writes: >> I meant that adding to base was discuss-worthy because there's a >> "bloat or necessary" question, not because of risk of breakage. > > Sure. So how much "bloat" is pwait? Is it a huge piece of software > or a small utility? I think that matters a bit. Posting a note t

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/pwait

2015-03-03 Thread Greg Troxel
Marc Balmer writes: > Am 03.03.15 um 14:35 schrieb Greg Troxel: >> >> chris...@astron.com (Christos Zoulas) writes: >> >>> If we want to make every single change to go through >>> tech-userlevel, we should institute a rule to do so. To my >>> knowledge we don't have yet such a rule. We already

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/pwait

2015-03-03 Thread Marc Balmer
Am 03.03.15 um 14:35 schrieb Greg Troxel: > > chris...@astron.com (Christos Zoulas) writes: > >> If we want to make every single change to go through >> tech-userlevel, we should institute a rule to do so. To my >> knowledge we don't have yet such a rule. We already have the rest >> of the p* pro

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/pwait

2015-03-03 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 03:58:56PM +, Christos Zoulas wrote: > For actionable items: > > pwait: >Should I remove pwait or leave it? Are there any features you want added? Bring it up on tech-userlevel. > In general: >Should we have more concrete commit rules, or do we prefer that cur

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/pwait

2015-03-03 Thread Christos Zoulas
For actionable items: pwait: Should I remove pwait or leave it? Are there any features you want added? In general: Should we have more concrete commit rules, or do we prefer that current status quo which is to leave things to people's judgement and occasionally backout things when peo

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/pwait

2015-03-03 Thread Christos Zoulas
On Mar 3, 8:35am, g...@ir.bbn.com (Greg Troxel) wrote: -- Subject: Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/pwait | We do sort of have a rule, which is that significant changes need | discussion. I would say adding programs to base always counts. Other | than that, it's trickier, but if ther

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/pwait

2015-03-03 Thread Greg Troxel
chris...@astron.com (Christos Zoulas) writes: > If we want to make every single change to go through tech-userlevel, > we should institute a rule to do so. To my knowledge we don't have yet > such a rule. We already have the rest of the p* programs which originated > in Solaris, we were missing t

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/pwait

2015-03-03 Thread Christos Zoulas
In article <20150303071552.gc27...@britannica.bec.de>, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > >You are missing the most important part of my mail: why did this not go >to tech-userlevel first? If we want to make every single change to go through tech-userlevel, we should institute a rule to do so. To my kn

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/pwait

2015-03-02 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 02:35:49AM +, Christos Zoulas wrote: > In article <20150303003710.ga20...@britannica.bec.de>, > Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > >On Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 04:43:39PM -0500, Christos Zoulas wrote: > >> Module Name: src > >> Committed By: christos > >> Date:

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/pwait

2015-03-02 Thread Christos Zoulas
In article <20150303003710.ga20...@britannica.bec.de>, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: >On Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 04:43:39PM -0500, Christos Zoulas wrote: >> Module Name: src >> Committed By:christos >> Date:Mon Mar 2 21:43:39 UTC 2015 >> >> Added Files: >> src/usr.bin/pwai

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/pwait

2015-03-02 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 04:43:39PM -0500, Christos Zoulas wrote: > Module Name: src > Committed By: christos > Date: Mon Mar 2 21:43:39 UTC 2015 > > Added Files: > src/usr.bin/pwait: Makefile pwait.1 pwait.c > > Log Message: > Add pwait, from FreeBSD Please don't just import prog