[SAtalk] Ick Viruses!

2002-05-04 Thread LuKreme
OK, I know SA is not an anti virus tool, and frankly I don't care about viruses anyway, but I am getting a lot of exe file attachements the last day or two Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.syth.serveftp.ne

Re: [SAtalk] Brute force spam prevention for NSP's

2002-05-04 Thread Matthew Cline
On Friday 03 May 2002 10:48 am, Viraj Alankar wrote: > Some questions I have is if anyone in a similar situation that I'm in? And > if so, would you think such a system like the above would be useful? I'd > appreciate any suggestions. First check the mail against a private DCC server which SA au

[SAtalk] Re: Ick Viruses!

2002-05-04 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Sat, 4 May 2002, LuKreme wrote: > OK, I know SA is not an anti virus tool, and frankly I don't care > about viruses anyway, but I am getting a lot of exe file attachements > the last day or two [...] > I was surprised there wasn't a .exe rule or a application/octet-stream > rule. Those two s

[SAtalk] PHP user Interface

2002-05-04 Thread Andrew Stephen
Hi I have followed all the various documents I can find on setting up the PHP interface for spamassassin, but I am still unable to past the user login. Can someone point me in the right direction or offer some suggestions as to why the authentication is failing. Regards Andrew ___

RE: [SAtalk] Multi-user SpamAssassin setup on vpopmail

2002-05-04 Thread Christopher Kunz
Hi, > Take a look at the new vpopmail integration in SA 2.20 first before > resorting to SQL. See the README.spamd-vpopmail in the spamd dir of the > 2.20 distribution for details. It gives support for virtual > vpopmail users. > I wrote the patch and use it daily and works great. great, thank

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Ick Viruses!

2002-05-04 Thread Richie Laager
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 04 May 2002 03:26 am, Daniel Pittman wrote: > On Sat, 4 May 2002, LuKreme wrote: > > OK, I know SA is not an anti virus tool, and frankly I > > don't care about viruses anyway, but I am getting a lot of > > exe file attachements the last d

RE: [SAtalk] Re: Ick Viruses!

2002-05-04 Thread Darren Coleman
In most cases these EXEs are caught by virus scanners under the "Trojan" category. Daz > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:spamassassin- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Richie Laager > Sent: 04 May 2002 14:00 > To: Daniel Pittman > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re

[SAtalk] incorporating SA in qmail-smtpd

2002-05-04 Thread Jon Myers
This may be a big task, but has anyone thought about incorporating SpamAssassin into qmail-smtpd. Doing this will allow the admin to have the ability to reject spam, and return an ERROR to the initial relay/mailer. Doing this should help in getting usernames removed from spam email lists, or havi

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Ick Viruses!

2002-05-04 Thread Nathan Neulinger
> > If you want to filter these, try something that's designed > > for the purpose. > > Correction: "If you want to filter [viruses], try something > that's designed for the purpose." > > I feel that a rule to catch .exe attachments would be great. > However, if this gets taken as far as blockin

Re: [SAtalk] Ick Viruses!

2002-05-04 Thread Sean Rima
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 4 May 2002, LuKreme yowled: > OK, I know SA is not an anti virus tool, and frankly I don't care > about viruses anyway, but I am getting a lot of exe file attachements > the last day or two > > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To:

Re: [SAtalk] [Fwd: I have some exclusive information for you.]

2002-05-04 Thread Derek Broughton
From: "Craig R Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Derek Broughton wrote: > > DB> From: "CertaintyTech - Ed Henderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > DB> > they used to improve rules or just added the spam corpus? > DB> > DB> Aren't the two things synonymous? ;-) I'm sure that that is, at least, the > DB> inte

[SAtalk] Re: Ick Viruses!

2002-05-04 Thread LuKreme
On Saturday, May 4, 2002, at 02:26 AM, Daniel Pittman wrote: > On Sat, 4 May 2002, LuKreme wrote: >> OK, I know SA is not an anti virus tool, and frankly I don't care >> about viruses anyway, but I am getting a lot of exe file attachements >> the last day or two > > [...] > >> I was surprised th

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Ick Viruses!

2002-05-04 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Sat, 4 May 2002, Nathan Neulinger wrote: > I personally couldn't care less about doing generalized virus scanning. > > I am however concerned about the constant load on my mail server dealing > with the worm traffic from these klez/melissa/hybrid/etc. infections. > > I would not be intereste

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Ick Viruses!

2002-05-04 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Sat, 4 May 2002, LuKreme wrote: > Still, it seems that Spamassassin is already running a lot of checks and > having a application/octet-stream or a check for attachment types would > be trivial to add. I get application/octet-stream attachments all the time that are comletely innocent. Often

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Ick Viruses!

2002-05-04 Thread dman
On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 09:17:14AM -0700, Bart Schaefer wrote: | On Sat, 4 May 2002, LuKreme wrote: | | > Still, it seems that Spamassassin is already running a lot of checks and | > having a application/octet-stream or a check for attachment types would | > be trivial to add. | | I get applicat

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Ick Viruses!

2002-05-04 Thread dman
On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 09:25:09AM -0500, Nathan Neulinger wrote: | > > If you want to filter these, try something that's designed | > > for the purpose. | > | > Correction: "If you want to filter [viruses], try something | > that's designed for the purpose." | > | > I feel that a rule to catch

[SAtalk] Who gets the High Score?

2002-05-04 Thread John Lang
I started using subject_tag _HITS_ and find it's fun to see just what creates a 56 point score :-) I'm sure thats no where near the highest.. How about a page for the highest scoring spam as a way to educate the public and promote Spamassassin? -- John Lang, E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bri

[SAtalk] Setting up Oulook filters on SA headers (was Re: setting default scores)

2002-05-04 Thread Dan Kohn
FYI, I've been quite happy with creating two folders Spam (for scores of 8 or higher) and Possible Spam (for scores higher than 5 but lower than 8). This is easily accomplished after SA 2.20 has been run on the mail by adding the following two rules at the top of Outlook Rules Wizard: Apply this

Re: [SAtalk] rule for IMG

2002-05-04 Thread Craig R Hughes
There's a lot of nonspam which uses IMG too, thing like Amazon order confirmations, fancier newsletters, etc, etc. Still, might be the case that it's a useful rule with a low score. C ___ Have big pipes? SourceForge.net is looking fo

Re: [SAtalk] rule for IMG

2002-05-04 Thread LuKreme
> There's a lot of nonspam which uses IMG too, thing like Amazon order > confirmations, fancier newsletters, etc, etc. Still, might be the case > that it's a useful rule with a low score. But is it more useful than the HTML check? Is there a reason to have both? -- You are responsible for y

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Ick Viruses!

2002-05-04 Thread LuKreme
> I added my own rule to check the message body (no mime-parsing) > instead of the Content-Type: header since klez usually comes as an > attachment : That looks pretty nice. Can procmail do that as well? (Never used procmail except to trigger SA). If so, that would solve the problem for me as

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Ick Viruses!

2002-05-04 Thread Craig R Hughes
SpamAssassin does not do virus checking for one simple reason: it would be horrendously innefficient at it. Virus checking vs Spam checking is analogous to the different between cmp and diff. One is looking at the bit-level (more or less), while the other is looking for much higher-order patter

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Ick Viruses!

2002-05-04 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Sat, 4 May 2002, LuKreme wrote: > > > > I added my own rule to check the message body (no mime-parsing) > > instead of the Content-Type: header since klez usually comes as an > > attachment : > > That looks pretty nice. Can procmail do that as well? Of course. See for example ht

Re: [SAtalk] More on mailing lists that test as spammers

2002-05-04 Thread Robert Fleming
--On Saturday, May 4, 2002 1:00 AM -0600 Syth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is rumoured to have written: > OK, related question: What's the best way to allow emails from this list > to get through to me without completely whitelisting the list? Is there > a way I can define a user_pref that says "If Fro

[SAtalk] checking ml admin bounce messages

2002-05-04 Thread Randy Bush
freebsd 4.5-stable exim 4.03 procmail 3.15 spamassassin 2.1q i admin many majordomo lists. i get garbage such as To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BOUNCE [EMAIL PROTECTED]:Non-member submission from [¹é¸¸ÀåÀÚŬ·´ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Date: Fri, 03 Ma

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Ick Viruses!

2002-05-04 Thread Kaitlin Duck Sherwood
I'm a Mac user, so I presume a virus-checker wouldn't find the Windows viruses. I'm getting enough Klezes that just the sheer volume is a nuisance. There are a lot of virii that use the same basic vector: using to launch the attachment as soon as the message is viewed. Thus, looking fo

[SAtalk] [RULE] SPAM regarding international drivers license...

2002-05-04 Thread Daniel Pittman
I get a few of these and almost without exception they don't hit any existing rule. So, how about: body WANT_TO_DRIVE /(want|need|desire|like).{,20}(drivers?[ \t]+)?licen[sc]e/i describe WANT_TO_DRIVE Asks if you want a drivers license. full INTERNATIONAL_LICENSE /international.{1,15}(driv

[SAtalk] Assuming whitelisting by default. (was Re: rule for IMG)

2002-05-04 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Sat, 04 May 2002, Kaitlin Duck Sherwood wrote: > Craig said: >> > There's a lot of nonspam which uses I-M-G too, thing like Amazon >> > order confirmations, fancier newsletters, etc, etc. > > Though those are easy to whitelist. Is the philosophy here to assume > that the user isn't whiteli

Re: [SAtalk] Brute force spam prevention for NSP's

2002-05-04 Thread Olivier Nicole
Jeremy, >STARTTLS tunneled mail does not take kindly to being transparently >redirected, especially if client certificates are being used. Not >sure what percentage of your customers would be using TLS mail, but a >false positive redirect would break things. I'd beleive not many spammer use TL

Re: [SAtalk] RFC: ok_languages patch

2002-05-04 Thread Olivier Nicole
Beside the intrest for selected languages, I see another general interest in that piece of code, is to apply rules depending on the language. Why trying to find "click below" if the message is detected to be in French. That could lead to buid rules with language variants, one single CLICKBELOW r

Re: [SAtalk] rule for IMG

2002-05-04 Thread Olivier Nicole
> > install SA and silently drop spam traffic. > Oooo! that is clever. I like it I like it. Remember it is droping the mail at source, not at destination. Any why taking any precaution with identified spammers, that have been going against the rules for years. If they are not happy they can s

[SAtalk] Re: Brute force spam prevention for NSP's

2002-05-04 Thread Alan Shutko
Olivier Nicole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As I said, redirect only identified, and complained about, spammers. Good luck on avoiding false positives. Any reason you think you can completely avoid them when _every_ previous attempt has failed? -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a vari

[SAtalk] Re: Brute force spam prevention for NSP's

2002-05-04 Thread Olivier Nicole
>Good luck on avoiding false positives. Any reason you think you can >completely avoid them when _every_ previous attempt has failed? Once again, I am not the ISP, but I would have no remorse at all to miss handle false positive for a known spammer (the kind of guy you receive 50 complains a wee

RE: [SAtalk] Re: Ick Viruses!

2002-05-04 Thread Michael Moncur
> I would not be interested in putting in rules for catching every pissant > windows virus out there, however, if there were a provided set of rules > (i.e. in a contrib section or similar) that would catch the > headline-making-windows-worms stuff, that would be a great improvement. > (I underst