Re: [SAtalk] Everyone running PYZOR read

2003-06-17 Thread Warren Togami
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 18:25, Jorge Fábregas wrote: > Hello all, > > I noticed I wasn't hitting the Pyzor rule for a couple of days...When I ran > spamassassin in debug mode I had: > > 66.47.67.162:24441 TimeoutError > > It tuns out their public server changed its address. You need to run:

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Frustrating spam

2003-06-17 Thread Abigail Marshall
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> 2) Can anyone run the spam below against a vanilla ruleset, 2.5[45] >>> and/or 2.6, and let me know if this spam should have been caught under >>> 2.54? >> Bob, The reason the spam in your case bypassed SA but got caught when you had others run it is here: > X-

RE: [SAtalk] RH 9.0 & Spamassassin 2.55

2003-06-17 Thread Clement
Thank you very much for your reply. It looks like a problem with RH9. I get the same error when installing Zip on this machine: Makefile:88: *** missing separator. Stop. I have already install all the RH 9 updates. Has anyone had the same experience? Regards, Clement > On Tue, 2003-06-17 at

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Frustrating spam

2003-06-17 Thread Abigail Marshall
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> 1) SA Developers: PLEASE provide some method whereby end-users like me >>> can implement header, body, and uri rules in user_prefs. You can implement rules by adding them to the local.cf file; here's an example of a ruleset for body: body BODY_PLING /\!

Re: [SAtalk] RH 9.0 & Spamassassin 2.55

2003-06-17 Thread Warren Togami
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 19:03, Clement wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Someone must have asked this, I cannot install Spamassassin 2.55 > in RH9.0. When doing the make, this is the error message: > > Makefile:72: *** missing separator. Stop. > > Trying 2.53 gets the same error, just on another line: > >

[SAtalk] RH 9.0 & Spamassassin 2.55

2003-06-17 Thread Clement
Hi Guys, Someone must have asked this, I cannot install Spamassassin 2.55 in RH9.0. When doing the make, this is the error message: Makefile:72: *** missing separator. Stop. Trying 2.53 gets the same error, just on another line: Makefile:92: *** missing separator. Stop. Can you help? Than

Re: [SAtalk] Frustrating spam

2003-06-17 Thread Tony Earnshaw
Tony Earnshaw wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) SA Developers: PLEASE provide some method whereby end-users like me can implement header, body, and uri rules in user_prefs. 2) Can anyone run the spam below against a vanilla ruleset, 2.5[45] and/or 2.6, and let me know if this spam should have be

Re: [SAtalk] Frustrating spam

2003-06-17 Thread Cam Ellison
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > This mail is probably spam. The original message has been attached > along with this report, so you can recognize or block similar unwanted > mail in future. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. > > Content preview: -BEGIN PGP S

Re: [SAtalk] Frustrating spam

2003-06-17 Thread Tony Earnshaw
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) SA Developers: PLEASE provide some method whereby end-users like me can implement header, body, and uri rules in user_prefs. 2) Can anyone run the spam below against a vanilla ruleset, 2.5[45] and/or 2.6, and let me know if this spam should have been caught under 2.54?

[SAtalk] Everyone running PYZOR read

2003-06-17 Thread Jorge Fábregas
Hello all, I noticed I wasn't hitting the Pyzor rule for a couple of days...When I ran spamassassin in debug mode I had: 66.47.67.162:24441 TimeoutError It tuns out their public server changed its address. You need to run: pyzor discover ...in order to get the new address. Check their

[SAtalk] Bugzilla moving to new server on Saturday!

2003-06-17 Thread Theo Van Dinter
Hey folks, Just wanted to let everyone know that we're going to be moving the SpamAssassin/SAproxy Bugzilla server to a new server on Saturday, June 21st 2003. We've planned and practiced the move, so it should be painless, but I'm going to claim 4pm - 10pm EDT for downtime just to make sure that

[SAtalk] Frustrating spam

2003-06-17 Thread RMSA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Things were going so well, too. SA was getting so good at trapping spam that I am now filtering three different domains through it, and was able to report to one domain's users that in all of last week, only three spam slipped through (vs hundreds fil

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was WeTEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
I'd buy the hide. Tan it, and make a rug out of it ... I could make millions selling Spammer Rugs on ebay... Robert, Hehe. You're right, you'd sell quite a few. You could even have the spammer hides painted with little targets and (jokingly) demeaning slogans about someone's manhood or pe

[SAtalk] Re: spamassassin Bugzilla Bug 2027: spamassassin -r does "learning ham" instead of "learning spam" ?

2003-06-17 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 09:37:08PM -0400, jeff covey wrote: > in reponse to: > >http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2027 hmmm. wonder why that didn't get marked as a dupe. found the bug, fixed the bug for 2.60. ;) see bug 2030. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "You may be sorr

Re[2]: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Robert Menschel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Benjamin, Tuesday, June 17, 2003, 2:17:05 PM, you wrote: BS> I like the hunting license part. Although I hear that they don't BS> taste particularly well, so you might want to donate the hide instead BS> ;-) Not sure who would buy it, however

Re[2]: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Robert Menschel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Steve, I still get those telemarketing calls, and I still tell them that. Having gotten involved with SA, and having now built up my spam corpus, I find I feel better about doing business with online businesses -- before I do anything with the

Re: [SAtalk] unlearning a lot of ham

2003-06-17 Thread jeff covey
on Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 05:30:52PM -0700%, Balam Willemsen said: q> Do the fuzzy checksums ignore "personalizations"? a> Yes, they ignore many so called "personalizations". err. thanks, but that's not really enough information to tell me anything. what is considered a "personalizatio

[SAtalk] RBL-PLUS screws with SA intent

2003-06-17 Thread Jason Haar
Hi there Has anyone using rbl-plus got a better way of integrating it with SA other than manually separating it back out into separate DUL, RSS, etc feeds again? The problem with rbl-plus is that it lists all DUL,RSS,etc DNS domains within it's one domain - which means that when you activate RCVD

Re: [SAtalk] unlearning a lot of ham

2003-06-17 Thread jeff covey
while the side issues are interesting, does anyone have answers for the actual questions that started this thread? :) most importantly: can i remove all the (bogus) ham data in my bayes database without removing any of the (valid) spam data i've collected? as for reporting leading to learning a

Re: [SAtalk] Razor Default Score

2003-06-17 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:56 PM 6/17/03 -0500, Link, Pete wrote: If I understand the process correctly, Spamassassin fires up the Razor checks and assigns a score. My question: How does one increase the default score? edit your local.cf or user_prefs and add: score RAZOR2_CHECK 4.0 or whatever other

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Jeremy Oddo
Jim Ford said: > On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 06:56:40PM -0400, Rick Macdougall wrote: > >> If everyone did that once a day, they might get the clue that the >> majority of their email isn't getting through (especially those >> clueless newbie spammers whos spam this list). > > They're anything but clu

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was WeTEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Yorkshire Dave
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 22:36, Jim Ford wrote: > But _does_ it really hurt them. They don't get any feedback - users that > install spam filters wouldn't have responded to to the spam anyway, other > than deleting it manually. The only difference is that the deletion process is > automated by a spam

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
> They're anything but clueless. The probably know that some users on this list > whitelist anything from lists.sourceforge.net - like me for instance! I'm sure that's quite true for most spammers but not all. I had to terminate someone's account once because they fell for the spam that said, "If

RE: [SAtalk] unlearning a lot of ham

2003-06-17 Thread Balam Willemsen
?!? Both razor and DCC are supposed to be largely insensitive to this e.g. From http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/dcc/FAQ.html Do the fuzzy checksums ignore "personalizations"? Yes, they ignore many so called "personalizations". Balam > -Original Message- > From: J

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Jim Ford
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 06:56:40PM -0400, Rick Macdougall wrote: > If everyone did that once a day, they might get the clue that the > majority of their email isn't getting through (especially those clueless > newbie spammers whos spam this list). They're anything but clueless. The probably kno

Re: [SAtalk] unlearning a lot of ham

2003-06-17 Thread Jim Ford
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 06:44:06PM -0400, jeff covey wrote: > i assume that other people could use reports of generic spam i've > received, but that it won't help them to have a checksum of a message > which is customized with my name, email address, etc. it's not going > to help me to know that

Re: [SAtalk] How to create rule in SpamAssassin?

2003-06-17 Thread Matt Kettler
At 04:32 PM 6/17/03 -0500, Oleg Aronov wrote: Hello, I just installed and configured SpamAssassin (with amavisd-new and Postfix). And it's working, but I want to create few more rules by myself which I want to use, but unfortunately I have no idea how I can do it. Hope somebody will help m

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was WeTEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Yorkshire Dave
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 21:23, Jeremy Oddo wrote: > > There is, of course, one other thing we need to do: we need to find those > people that BUY stuff from SPAM, take them out back and shoot them dead. > CAUTION: before implementing said procedure, please check with your local > law enforcement

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Kelson Vibber
Steve Prior wrote: When I used to get telemarketing phone calls there were times when I was actually interested in the category of product being called about, but I always told the caller that it was too bad they had called because I am actually interested in such a product, but have a policy of ne

[SAtalk] 'cryingrussians' spam

2003-06-17 Thread ree
I've seen mentions of this type of spam that does not get tagged as such with the default rules of spamassassin 2.55. Can anyone elaborate on techniques for blocking this type of spam? I saw mention of the fact that most of these have a forged received header - I checked some that I got here and

RE: [SAtalk] Docs or "cheat sheets" on installing SpamAssassin on MS Windows?

2003-06-17 Thread Martin Martinec
Morning list, I have followed the instructions for the SMTP gateway. They are pretty good, and spam assassin seems to be working nicely - to a point. The instructions just quickly mention that the SMTP proxy has been removed from the current version and points to 2 other sites, that have a similar

Re: [SAtalk] unlearning a lot of ham

2003-06-17 Thread jeff covey
on Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 09:22:18PM +0100%, Jim Ford said: jim> I didn't realise you'd want to learn spam but not report it! jim> Why would you want to do this - I always report spam that jim> slips through to Razor? i assume that other people could use reports of generic spam i've rec

[SAtalk] Razor Default Score

2003-06-17 Thread Link, Pete
If I understand the process correctly, Spamassassin fires up the Razor checks and assigns a score. My question: How does one increase the default score? Any feedback will be greatly appreciated. Thank you, PETE

Re: [SAtalk] LDAP Storage instead of SQL Storage

2003-06-17 Thread Justin Mason
Kristian Koehntopp said: > I need my code for a project where there is a master LDAP with > some 200 replicas nationwide, partially with 64 kBit/sec ISDN > lines used for replication and mail forwarding together. If I > were to store AWL or bayes data within the repository, the > updates would ki

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was WeTEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Rick Macdougall
Hi, I usually take it one step further and call most spammers who list a 1-800 number, thanking them for suppling further tests we can integrate into SA. If everyone did that once a day, they might get the clue that the majority of their email isn't getting through (especially those clueless

Re: [SAtalk] Install spamassasin on free hosting.

2003-06-17 Thread Tony Earnshaw
33.admin wrote: I want to install spamassasin on free hosting, such as netfirms.com and then check my e-mail with imapassasin tool. Could you say, is it possible to install spamassasin on free hosting, or there will be problems, and what can I to do to solve problems. It doesn't seem possible to c

Re: [SAtalk] Install spamassasin on free hosting.

2003-06-17 Thread Tony Earnshaw
Tony Earnshaw wrote: thot the SpamAssassin list. Huh? Tht should be: "not the SpamAssassin list." Tony -- Tony Earnshaw Working to get a life http://j-walk.com/blog/docs/conference.htm http://www.billy.demon.nl Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- T

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
> It's actually not that bad...tastes like pork...but a little stringy. > Whoops! I've said too much! Hmm, pork... politicians... spammers... do I see a connection? > ...and this coming from a vegetarian. I should be ashamed of myself. Not really, it's okay to splurge... wait ... nevermind :-

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
> But _does_ it really hurt them. They don't get any feedback - users that > install spam filters wouldn't have responded to to the spam anyway, other > than deleting it manually. The only difference is that the deletion process is > automated by a spam filter. I reckon spammers don't really care a

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Jeremy Oddo
Benjamin A. Shelton said: >> Aw, can't we gather up enough $$ to buy out a congresscritter? I'm >> sure that we can get hunting licenses extended to spammers & those >> that buy from spammers... can we try? Please? > > > I like the hunting license part. Although I hear that they don't taste > part

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Jim Ford
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:23:47PM -0700, Jeremy Oddo wrote: > As I've stated before, I've cut down the amount of spam actually getting > to it's intended destination by over 98% by using SA. That's gotta be > hurting the spammers :) But _does_ it really hurt them. They don't get any feedback -

[SAtalk] How to create rule in SpamAssassin?

2003-06-17 Thread Oleg Aronov
Hello, I just installed and configured SpamAssassin (with amavisd-new and Postfix). And it's working, but I want to create few more rules by myself which I want to use, but unfortunately I have no idea how I can do it. Hope somebody will help me. So, what I want is create special

Re: [SAtalk] LDAP Storage instead of SQL Storage

2003-06-17 Thread Kristian Koehntopp
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 08:01:04PM +0100, Colin Dean wrote: > Perhaps it's best to get some feedback on each separately to start with, > and come back to this later? Probably yes. I need my code for a project where there is a master LDAP with some 200 replicas nationwide, partially with 64 kBit/

RE: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Vivek Khera
> "BJ" == Ben Johansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: BJ> LOL! BJ> Teaching implies that the student will learn and put the learning into BJ> practice. BJ> How can there be learnin' if their dead behind the shed? ;-) You assume the student is the one behind the shed.

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
> Aw, can't we gather up enough $$ to buy out a congresscritter? I'm sure > that we can get hunting licenses extended to spammers & those that buy > from spammers... can we try? Please? Well, it was said once by Mark Twain that here in the United States, "We have the best politicians money can buy

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was WeTEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Steve Prior
Jeremy Oddo wrote: There is, of course, one other thing we need to do: we need to find those people that BUY stuff from SPAM, take them out back and shoot them dead. CAUTION: before implementing said procedure, please check with your local law enforcement to determine if this is legal in your ar

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was WeTEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Jonathan Nichols
Benjamin A. Shelton wrote: There is, of course, one other thing we need to do: we need to find those people that BUY stuff from SPAM, take them out back and shoot them dead. CAUTION: before implementing said procedure, please check with your local law enforcement to determine if this is legal in

RE: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Ben Johansen
LOL! Teaching implies that the student will learn and put the learning into practice. How can there be learnin' if their dead behind the shed? ;-) Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm Authorized MDaemon Mail Server Reseller

[SAtalk] make test spamc.t's connection to discard causing problems?

2003-06-17 Thread Hannu Liljemark
Instead of posting probably a false bug report, I might as well ask if anyone has ran into this feature with make test: t/spam..ok t/spamc. and the system freezes, crashes or network went gaga - can't tell before someone walks to the remote box's console an

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
> There is, of course, one other thing we need to do: we need to find those > people that BUY stuff from SPAM, take them out back and shoot them dead. > CAUTION: before implementing said procedure, please check with your local > law enforcement to determine if this is legal in your area. ;) WELL

[SAtalk] Install spamassasin on free hosting.

2003-06-17 Thread 33.admin
Hello spamassassin-talk, I want to install spamassasin on free hosting, such as netfirms.com and then check my e-mail with imapassasin tool. Could you say, is it possible to install spamassasin on free hosting, or there will be problems, and what can I to do to solve problems. I need to run

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Jeremy Oddo
Yorkshire Dave said: > On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 18:35, Benjamin A. Shelton wrote: > >> >> The last article I read citing Jupiter research claimed >> per-user spam has been doubling every 42 days. I'd almost believe >> it... >> > > This is pure conjecture, but a pleasant thought. Maybe the spammer's >

Re: [SAtalk] unlearning a lot of ham

2003-06-17 Thread Jim Ford
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 02:26:14PM -0400, jeff covey wrote: > on Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 07:06:52PM +0100%, Jim Ford said: > jim> so the first 2 macros are redundant. > > i don't understand what you're trying to say. one learns spam (for > spam i don't want to report) and one learns and reports

Re: *****SPAM***** [SAtalk] WSSSSUP?? Let's make some MONEY, bro!

2003-06-17 Thread Jim Ford
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 12:08:50PM -0700, Evan Platt wrote: > I thought we made this a closed list? I don't really mind. As this list is in my whitelist every mail gets -100 points, so the occasional spam posted here slips through. I've decided to leave it like that as they remind me why this lis

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
> This is pure conjecture, but a pleasant thought. Maybe the spammer's > return rate is halving every 42 days and they're trying to compensate. Yes, it is pure conjecture but so are most of the statistics barfed out by some of these organizations anyway unless their methods are legitimate (I must

[SAtalk] Script for CLI message approval and spam removal

2003-06-17 Thread Thomas Gramstad
I'm posting a script for using SA with the Mailman listserver. The script makes possible message approval via the shell, saving a lot of time otherwise spent on downloading Mailman web pages, typing passwords etc. The script is written by Kjetil Torgrim Homme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, send comments if

[SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you howto ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Yorkshire Dave
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 18:35, Benjamin A. Shelton wrote: > > The last article I read citing Jupiter research claimed > per-user spam has been doubling every 42 days. I'd almost believe it... > This is pure conjecture, but a pleasant thought. Maybe the spammer's return rate is halving every 42 d

Re: *****SPAM***** [SAtalk] WSSSSUP?? Let's make some MONEY, bro!

2003-06-17 Thread Evan Platt
--On Tuesday, June 17, 2003 9:01 PM + Learn to SPAM!! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This mail is probably spam. The original message has been attached > along with this report, so you can recognize or block similar unwanted > mail in future. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details

Re: [SAtalk] Low scoring

2003-06-17 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:32 PM 6/17/2003 -0500, Fogle, Don - OPS System Administrator wrote: I have a Redhat 7.3 system running Postfix, Spamassassin 2.55 and Amavisd-new that filters mail and relays it on to an Exchange server. I have noticed that obvious spam is not being caught and is being relayed on. One of t

[SAtalk] What is the best way to train sa-learn?

2003-06-17 Thread yellowfin
Hi, I am about to begin the process of using sa-learn to teach our bayesian filter. I am wondering is there some where that has hundreds or thousands of spam emails available for download. So that I can put them in a directory and train SA? Or maybe I am headed in the wrong direction? Any good

Re: [SAtalk] LDAP Storage instead of SQL Storage

2003-06-17 Thread Colin Dean
Kristian Koehntopp wrote on 11 June 2003: > Has anybody written a ConfSourceLDAP.pm analogue to ConfSourceSQL.pm? > I am looking for a solution that stores SpamAssassin Preferences within > an LDAP store. and on 17 June 2003: > This is an untested draft, which I am going to debug and test now. >

[SAtalk] FW: erroring-out using 'Razor2' & 'SA' & 'amavsd-new'

2003-06-17 Thread postmaster
Dear List, Well..weird.I guess just the process of asking for help was all the help I really needed. As soon as I sent the last two emails, I thought I'd try to manually install the latest version of SpamAssassin myself, from the console, using make, make, make test, make install,

Re: [SAtalk] SA used as a gateway

2003-06-17 Thread Vivek Khera
> "y" == yellowfin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: y> How could I use SA as just a gateway to pass the scanned mail onto y> another machine running our mail server? SA does the scanning/scoring. Your mail server does the routing. I suspect you need to seek advice from your mail server vendor/m

[SAtalk] Help

2003-06-17 Thread Norberto Ruiz
Hi all, I need configure Spamassassin with Sendmail, there is any site where I can read a How to?? Thanks you. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers & Consultants: Become An INetU Hosting Partner. Refer Dedicate

Re: [SAtalk] We TEACH you how to SPAM and make a Fortune!!

2003-06-17 Thread Jim Ford
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 12:03:30PM -0500, Mike Vanecek wrote: > Does any forward the spam messages to this list to organizations such as > spamcop, and so on? I always notify Razor. > If all we can do is filter the turkey with SA and not shut him down, then what > is the use of it? I've been loo

Re: [SAtalk] unlearning a lot of ham

2003-06-17 Thread Jim Ford
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 12:53:57PM -0400, jeff covey wrote: > hello, all. > # train spamassassin's bayesian filter > macro index S "| sa-learn --single --spam -D" > macro pager S "| sa-learn --single --spam -D" > # report spam to razor > macro index Z "| spamassassin -r -D" > macro pager Z "| spam

Re: [SAtalk] Spamd problem with razor2

2003-06-17 Thread Cam Ellison
* Oliver Egginger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Try restarting spamd. > Thanks, but that turns out not to be necessary. I re-ran razor-admin -discover on Kelson's suggestion, and things are fine now. Cam -- Cam Ellison Ph.D. R.Psych. From Roberts Creek on B.C.'s incomparable Sunshine Coast cam(

[SAtalk] Low scoring

2003-06-17 Thread Fogle, Don - OPS System Administrator
I have a Redhat 7.3 system running Postfix, Spamassassin 2.55 and Amavisd-new that filters mail and relays it on to an Exchange server. I have noticed that obvious spam is not being caught and is being relayed on. One of these emails scored 1.6 when it went through the system. I copied and p

Re: [SAtalk] We TEACH you how to ...

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
> If all we can do is filter the turkey with SA and not shut him down, then what > is the use of it? I always thought that if you implement a decent filtering system and have it (or similar systems) installed across a wider base, you limit the number of spams that make it to the end-user, thus dec

RE: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-17 Thread Joe Julian
Hmmm... How much negative score should smileys get... ;) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Benjamin A. Shelton > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 8:41 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this ti

Re: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
> Hmmm... How much negative score should smileys get... ;) ;-) Well, with the changes I've read about that are due to be released in 2.60, I almost can't wait! --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers & Consultan

[SAtalk] Re: Spamd problem with razor2

2003-06-17 Thread Kelson Vibber
At 09:00 AM 6/17/2003, Cam Ellison wrote: spamd consistently produces a timeout when trying to access the razor servers. Specifically, Ping.pm is what craps out: IIRC, this usually means that it can't contact the Razor server it's looking for. Try calling "razor-admin --discover" as the user spa

[SAtalk] unlearning a lot of ham

2003-06-17 Thread jeff covey
hello, all. i'm running spamassassin 2.55 on a debian testing system. i wanted to do the following: for spam specific to me (containing my name, a unique spamee number, etc.): tell spamassassin it's spam. for generic spam: tell spamassassin it's spam and report it to razor, pyzor, etc. so

Re: [SAtalk] We TEACH you how to SPAM and make a Fortune!!

2003-06-17 Thread Mike Vanecek
Does any forward the spam messages to this list to organizations such as spamcop, and so on? If all we can do is filter the turkey with SA and not shut him down, then what is the use of it? I am beginning to think that the collective efforts of many organizations to shut down spammers is a dismal

Re: [SAtalk] We TEACH you how to SPAM and make a Fortune!!

2003-06-17 Thread Kelson Vibber
Matthew Cline wrote: Heh. Heh. Snicker. BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Exactly! I saw essentially the same spam a couple of weeks ago - it was dripping with so much arrogance and disregard for the people stuck receiving their garbage that I couldn't quite make up my mind whether it was a "real" spam or

[SAtalk] WSSSSUP?? Let's make some MONEY, bro!

2003-06-17 Thread Learn to SPAM!!
Title: Untitled Document THIS IS NOT SPAM!! YOU and YOU ALONE Opted-In and Subscribed Directly with Us to receive the TWICE PER WEEK SPAM E-mail Money Making Newsletter" Read this E-mail completely and if you decide to unsubscribe, per your ORIGINAL AGREEMENT, please allow up to 3 OR M

Re: [SAtalk] Filtering spam sent to mail aliases

2003-06-17 Thread Owen B. Mehegan
I pulled a message from my spam folder and sent from my home email account to an alias at work that forwards to me. By looking at the header, I see that SA looked at it, but it tagged the message as having a spam score of zero. Here's the header I get: X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version

[SAtalk] Spamd problem with razor2

2003-06-17 Thread Cam Ellison
I'm running SA 2.55, razor 2.22, and exim 4.10 on a Debian testing/unstable box. Until recently, it was working fine, but now spamd consistently produces a timeout when trying to access the razor servers. Specifically, Ping.pm is what craps out: Jun 15 04:56:31 treehouse spamd[417]: razor2 check

Re: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
> Nonsense. I told you why it had a sudden increase in negative scores. It > was because I installed 2.5x. Hi Frank, I missed your reply, unfortunately. Although, I think everyone else did to :-( My apologies! --- This SF.Net email is sp

Re: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-17 Thread Frank Pineau
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Benjamin A. Shelton wrote: > > Nerd alert: Maybe auto-whitelisting was enabled (producing negative > scoreds)? > > I beg your pardon. I sometimes have the tendency to completely ignore the > obvious :-p > Nonsense. I told you why it had a sudden increase in negative score

Re: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
> Heh. Prob. the "nerd alert" was a bit ambiguous; just meant as a way to > describe the tekkie detail of the topic. - Gary See? This is the problem with e-mail -- if you forget smilies, sometimes it's hard to read tongue-in-cheek messages correctly ;-) Ahh well, all in good fun. It's my fault

Re: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
> Nerd alert: Maybe auto-whitelisting was enabled (producing negative scoreds)? I beg your pardon. I sometimes have the tendency to completely ignore the obvious :-p --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers & Cons

Re: [SAtalk] LDAP Storage instead of SQL Storage

2003-06-17 Thread Kristian Koehntopp
On Wednesday 11 June 2003 18:10, Kristian Koehntopp wrote: > Has anybody written a ConfSourceLDAP.pm analogue to ConfSourceSQL.pm? I am > looking for a solution that stores SpamAssassin Preferences within an LDAP > store. This is an untested draft, which I am going to debug and test now. Why post

[SAtalk] Updating FORGED_MUA_THEBAT to handle spammer's latest variation

2003-06-17 Thread Yorkshire Dave
The existing version of this rule (2.55) is checking for 'X-Mailer: The Bat!' and a Message-ID failing to match a given format. The version of the tests in 2.60cvs is a little more complex but still dependant upon finding 'X-Mailer: The Bat!'. Recently I have seen spam (porn, single image) pretend

Re: [SAtalk] Problem with spamd as non-root user

2003-06-17 Thread Michael Weber
First, you will have to change the port spamd uses since only root accounts can attach to port numbers < 1024. Second, check the rights to ALL the spamassassin files. Spamd must be able to read, and sometimes write to all the configs, databases, etc. Third... Oh, forget it. Just run spamd as r

Re: [SAtalk] Help needed blocking HTML_IMAGE_ONLY emails

2003-06-17 Thread Fox Flanders
2.55 today, 2.54 yesterday. Fox - Original Message - From: "Tony Earnshaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Fox Flanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Help needed blocking HTML_IMAGE_ONLY emails > Fox Flanders wrote: > >

Re: [SAtalk] Docs or "cheat sheets" on installing SpamAssassin on MS Windows?

2003-06-17 Thread Joe Flowers
Thanks Bob! I'm looking more for something like what Tom Meunier sent though (http://www.openhandhome.com/howtosa.html). > What are you trying to do with SpamAssassin that you need to run it > under WinXP? Development work. I'm tying SpamAssassin to Novell's NetMail and I just need something as

Re: [SAtalk] Problem with spamd as non-root user

2003-06-17 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 02:45:26PM +0200, Kim Bisgaard wrote: > I am trying to run spamd a non-root user. I am using global SA > filtering, and run both spamd and spamc as the same user. > > The problem is that I get a log of errors in the log and I do not know > what I have done to get them the

Re: [SAtalk] a few suggestions

2003-06-17 Thread Dan Baker
SAproxy 1.2 uses 2.55. I'd suggest than Dan upgrade to SAproxy 1.2, of course. -- I just downloaded, but have not installed yet. maybe today. In terms of writing new rules, the best place to begin is Matt Kettler's rule writing guide. Is there a permanent URL for that? Maybe we can add a li

[SAtalk] Problem with spamd as non-root user

2003-06-17 Thread Kim Bisgaard
Hi, I am trying to run spamd a non-root user. I am using global SA filtering, and run both spamd and spamc as the same user. The problem is that I get a log of errors in the log and I do not know what I have done to get them there (I am not a Perl expert!). First I get a lot of errors when I s

Re: [SAtalk] Sick of spam? Sure am!

2003-06-17 Thread Mark Lowes
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 17:14, Benjamin A. Shelton wrote: > This is one thing I'll never understand. Why advertise anti-spam software > by spamming? I mean, if it really did work, you wouldn't be able to > advertise anymore! To quote a UK based company which was advertising via a 'millions cd' it

Re: [SAtalk] We TEACH you how to SPAM and make a Fortune!!

2003-06-17 Thread Matthew Cline
Heh. Heh. Snicker. BWAHAHAHAHAHA! > ANTI-SPAMMER-PROOF Really? It scored 34.6 for me, or 26.5 with network tests off. > We are directly responsible for up to 70% of the online Viagra and Pharmacy > E-Mail SPAM generated sales on the net today Burn them! Burn them!! -- Give a man a m

[SAtalk] Should we use spamassassin's auto learn feature?

2003-06-17 Thread Oliver Egginger
Hello all, we have decided to use Spamassassin with Exim. We configured the system on a per user basis. Everything works fine but I was wondering, if we should switch off SAs autolearn mechanism, because the bayes databases could consume to much memory (we have circa 5000 users). How effektiv

[SAtalk] We TEACH you how to SPAM and make a Fortune!!

2003-06-17 Thread MAKE BIG $$$$$$$
Title: Untitled Document THIS IS NOT SPAM!! YOU and YOU ALONE Opted-In and Subscribed Directly with Us to receive the TWICE PER WEEK SPAM E-mail Money Making Newsletter" Read this E-mail completely and if you decide to unsubscribe, per your ORIGINAL AGREEMENT, please allow up to 3 OR M

Re: [SAtalk] a few suggestions

2003-06-17 Thread Tony Earnshaw
Daniel Quinlan wrote: "SpamAssassin 2.52-cvs". Here I'm absolutely stymied. There was never a 2.52-cvs in my tree. And "2003-03-20" doesn't look like "the latest" to me. *Anybody else know what Dan is talking about?* You are being excessively harsh, Tony. Ouch ... sorry Dan I didn't mean to be har

RE: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-17 Thread Gary Funck
> -Original Message- > From: Frank Pineau > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 3:06 PM > > On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:56:20 -0600, you wrote: > > >I don't mean to drag this too far off-topic, but I'm a little curious. > >What happened about two-thirds > >of the way after 02/01 that increased the

Re: [SAtalk] Docs or "cheat sheets" on installing SpamAssassin onMS Windows?

2003-06-17 Thread Bob Apthorpe
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:51:39 -0400 "Joe Flowers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I need to get Spam Assassin to work on a MS Windows XP machine ASAP. > Are there any docs, faqs , web pages, or "cheat sheets" available to help me > get this does ASAP? Try SAProxy at http://saprox