Re: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-08-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Chris Blaise wrote: > I only use DCC but in my experience, I've never heard of it > rating non-spam bulk mail that I or anyone at my company has ever cared > about; it's always been spam. As a result I push the score way up at > 10. Just remember that DCC makes no claims about "spam"iness o

RE: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-08-01 Thread Chris Blaise
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Gilson, Larry > > Would anyone else like to comment on the effectiveness of > each check and where they think it they are weak and strong. > Also, what scores you give for each specific check? I only use DCC but in m

RE: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-08-01 Thread Kelson Vibber
"Matthew Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Pyzor bills itself as "a Python implementation of Razor," so I see no reason to use both Razor and Pyzor. Not exactly. According to pyzor.sourceforge.net: Pyzor initially *started out to be* merely a Python implementation of

RE: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-08-01 Thread Gilson, Larry
Hey Matt, Thanks for the lengthy reply. You gave me more than I was looking for and it is very much appreciated! Would anyone else like to comment on the effectiveness of each check and where they think it they are weak and strong. Also, what scores you give for each specific check? Thanks aga

[SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-08-01 Thread Larry Gilson
Hey Matt, Thanks for the lengthy reply. You gave me more than I was looking for and it is very much appreciated! Would anyone else like to comment on the effectiveness of each check and where they think it they are weak and strong. Also, what scores you give for each specific check? Thanks aga

RE: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-07-31 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:16 PM 7/31/03 -0400, Larry Gilson wrote: Have these statistics been fairly true over time or do they fluctuate? It seems that the statistics are point-in-time numbers that tell more about the reported spam rather than the effectiveness of the specific check. While the corpus of messages fe

RE: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-07-31 Thread Larry Gilson
> -Original Message- > From: Matt Kettler > from SA 2.55's rules/STATISTICS-set1.txt > > OVERALL% SPAM% HAM% S/ORANK SCORE NAME > 27.427 51.2148 0.16580.997 1.002.06 RAZOR2_CHECK > 13.201 24.7144 0.00741.000 0.974.40 PYZOR_CHECK >6.254

RE: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-07-31 Thread Ed Kasky
nal Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Kettler Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:42 PM To: Clay Atkins; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor At 01:45 PM 7/31/2003 -0500, Clay Atkins wrote: >Any thoughts on which of these is

RE: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-07-31 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:33 PM 7/31/2003 -0400, Sanjay K. Patel wrote: How can someone generate this report on the their local copy of spamassassin? It's not generated by your local copy.. Those statistics are included as a part of the SA distribution. They are the rule hit-rate statistics from the corpus that was

RE: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-07-31 Thread Sanjay K. Patel
How can someone generate this report on the their local copy of spamassassin? -SKP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Kettler Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:42 PM To: Clay Atkins; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2

RE: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-07-31 Thread Benjamin Tomhave
> On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 14:45, Clay Atkins wrote: > > Any thoughts on which of these is better, none, or a combination of > > them? > > > > Ya know, that would be a good topic for a poll at the SA news site. > It would be a good topic for the FAQ, too, since this questions seems to arise almost eve

Re: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-07-31 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:45 PM 7/31/2003 -0500, Clay Atkins wrote: Any thoughts on which of these is better, none, or a combination of them? The STATISTICS*.txt files that come with spamassassin will speak much more definitively about the accuracy of these tools than any human on this list can. from SA 2.55's rules

Re: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-07-31 Thread AltGrendel
On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 14:45, Clay Atkins wrote: > Any thoughts on which of these is better, none, or a combination of > them? > Ya know, that would be a good topic for a poll at the SA news site. -- AltGrendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This

RE: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-07-31 Thread Matthew Thomas
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Clay Atkins > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:45 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor > > > Any thoughts on which of these is bet

[SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-07-31 Thread Clay Atkins
Any thoughts on which of these is better, none, or a combination of them? --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to w