[SAtalk] Re: Freedom of Press / Speech / Junk Mail (yah right)

2002-03-26 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Rick Smith wrote: > How long do you think it will be until users of SA face the same > consequences as the now infamous ORBZ case ? > > I'm sure that some lawyer out there could find a way to sue someone > for running this package. Absolutely. The American legal systems seem

[SAtalk] Re: Freedom of Press / Speech / Junk Mail (yah right)

2002-03-26 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Olivier Nicole wrote: >>unless all ISPs are "well-behaved" and block outbound >>port 25 except to their own mail servers > > provided they have a decent architecture (that can handle the hundred > thousand, or million email they send per day) they will end up with > transpar

[SAtalk] Re: Freedom of Press / Speech / Junk Mail (yah right)

2002-03-26 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Jason Haar wrote: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 01:00:05PM +1100, Daniel Pittman wrote: >> Right up to the point that someone institutes the architecture for >> secure mail relay that the combination of TLS and certificate >> verification provide -- /that/ can't be transparently p

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Freedom of Press / Speech / Junk Mail (yah right)

2002-03-26 Thread Jason Haar
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 01:00:05PM +1100, Daniel Pittman wrote: > Right up to the point that someone institutes the architecture for > secure mail relay that the combination of TLS and certificate > verification provide -- /that/ can't be transparently proxied... Ahhh - but they wouldn't be allow

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Freedom of Press / Speech / Junk Mail (yah right)

2002-03-26 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 02:48:27PM +1100, Daniel Pittman wrote: > On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Jason Haar wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 01:00:05PM +1100, Daniel Pittman wrote: > >> Right up to the point that someone institutes the architecture for > >> secure mail relay that the combination of TLS an

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Freedom of Press / Speech / Junk Mail (yah right)

2002-03-26 Thread dman
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:54:47PM -0500, Duncan Findlay wrote: | On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 02:48:27PM +1100, Daniel Pittman wrote: | > On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Jason Haar wrote: | > > We have this situation here in New Zealand. Some ISPs have different | > > service options - the cheapest option redir