Re: [SAtalk] Re: Troubling new scores in 2.1 release

2002-02-28 Thread Craig Hughes
On 2/28/02 5:28 PM, "Scott Walde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would it make sense to take a look at the ratio of spam to non-spam for > each given rule, and to constrain the score to either -ve or +ve depending > on which way the ratio leaned? This way, "monsterhut" may wander > randomly, but i

[SAtalk] Re: Troubling new scores in 2.1 release

2002-02-28 Thread Scott Walde
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Michael Shields wrote: > Craig R Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > this is that rules which are really non-discriminators end up sometimes getting > > odd-looking scores. For example, CYBER_FIRE_POWER is just not likely to really > > be worth -4.020 if looked at in isola

[SAtalk] Re: Troubling new scores in 2.1 release

2002-02-28 Thread Craig Hughes
On 2/28/02 7:27 AM, "Michael Shields" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Craig R Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> this is that rules which are really non-discriminators end up sometimes >> getting >> odd-looking scores. For example, CYBER_FIRE_POWER is just no

Re: [SAtalk] RE: Troubling new scores in 2.1 release

2002-02-28 Thread Craig Hughes
On 2/28/02 7:06 AM, "Shane Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Michael Moncur wrote: > >> While some of the negative scores (like DEAR_SOMEBODY) might have >> really turned into legitimate indicators of non-spam, I don't think >> any message deserves having its spam score

[SAtalk] Re: Troubling new scores in 2.1 release

2002-02-28 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Michael Moncur wrote: >> To me, -ve scores on tests can also be used to "offset" spammy >> messages in clean email. I have several of these of my own creation: > > Well, yes, that's true - SpamAssassin already includes a bunch of > these, such as COPYRIGHT_CLAIMED and PHP_SIG

Re: [SAtalk] RE: Troubling new scores in 2.1 release

2002-02-28 Thread Phydeaux
At 09:06 AM 2/28/2002 -0600, Shane Williams wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Michael Moncur wrote: > >> While some of the negative scores (like DEAR_SOMEBODY) might have >> really turned into legitimate indicators of non-spam, I don't think >> any message deserves

[SAtalk] RE: Troubling new scores in 2.1 release

2002-02-28 Thread Shane Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Michael Moncur wrote: > While some of the negative scores (like DEAR_SOMEBODY) might have > really turned into legitimate indicators of non-spam, I don't think > any message deserves having its spam score reduced by 8 points by > virtue of