RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-30 Thread Mike Batchelor
I'm not so sure about that. I have only a few hundred hams learned (almost all by hand), and thousands of spams learned (almost all automatically) and everyone here thinks SA has almost supernatural abilities to ferret out the spam and ham. And it's just getting better, the more ham I give it

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Kai Schaetzl
John Stewart wrote on Wed, 28 May 2003 16:09:05 -0500: > You want the headers! Bayes uses these. That's correct, but if you look at a spamassassin -D output you see that the header information usually plays a marginal role. From a typical message you may have 1 - 3 matches in the headers but ab

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Stuart Gall
- Original Message - From: "Stewart, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Stuart Gall'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Per Björklund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 12:09 AM Subject: RE: [SAt

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Stewart, John
> > I was wondering if it could be possible to get sa-learn to > just look at the message text > > and ignore all header information when I feed it with > messages from exchange (since exchange screws everything up). > > > > That way all users on the exchange-system could just > forward their

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Stewart, John
> I think there maybe be problems with the public folder > solution in Exchange 2000. While it appears to work under > Exchange 5.5, in Exchange 2000 it seems that all mail stored > in public folders and accessed through IMAP or POP loses a > lot of its header information, at least in my expe

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Jack Gostl
On 28 May 2003, Louis Bohm wrote: > Can one of the SA developers please respond to this and give a definit > "Yes it can/No it cannot be done" answer. > > I currently have a mailbox containing 2 SPAM mails that were not > marked as such and about 1000 HAMS marked as spam. Can I really just

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Bingham, Ryan
seem to recall other people reporting the same problem on this list. Has anyone else seen this? Thanks, Ryan > -Original Message- > From: Louis Bohm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 3:48 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] sa-le

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Stuart Gall
- Original Message - From: "Per Björklund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:09 PM Subject: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange > I was wondering if it could be possible to get sa-learn to just look at the message > text > and i

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Louis Bohm
Can one of the SA developers please respond to this and give a definit "Yes it can/No it cannot be done" answer. I currently have a mailbox containing 2 SPAM mails that were not marked as such and about 1000 HAMS marked as spam. Can I really just pump them into SA with out causing any probl

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Stewart, John
> Please correct me if I am wrong. But I thought I saw a > posting a while > back (when 2.50 came out) that doing what you are doing would > shift the > balance of the Bayes DB toward one side or another. I > remember someone > clearly stating that you need an equal amount of SPAM and HAM to

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Louis Bohm
Please correct me if I am wrong. But I thought I saw a posting a while back (when 2.50 came out) that doing what you are doing would shift the balance of the Bayes DB toward one side or another. I remember someone clearly stating that you need an equal amount of SPAM and HAM to do this. Louis O

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Genchev, Sergei
> I was wondering if it could be possible to get sa-learn to just look at the message text > and ignore all header information when I feed it with messages from exchange (since exchange screws everything up). > That way all users on the exchange-system could just forward their emails to a spambox

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Genchev, Sergei
> I was wondering if it could be possible to get sa-learn to just look at the message text > and ignore all header information when I feed it with messages from exchange (since exchange screws everything up). > That way all users on the exchange-system could just forward their emails to a spambox

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Matt Yackley
Hi Per, Someone can point out where I'm wrong, if I have my setup messed up, but here is what I found that seems to work fairly well so far. I setup two Public Folders on an Exchange 5.5 box, they are set so all users can create items in a "Verified-Non-Spam" folder, but can't view the content

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Chris Santerre
> -Original Message- > From: Per Björklund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 11:10 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange > > > I was wondering if it could be possible to get sa-learn to > just look at the messa

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread DEFFONTAINES Vincent
> > I was wondering if it could be possible to get sa-learn to > just look at the message text and ignore all header information > when I feed it with messages from exchange (since exchange screws > everything up). > > That way all users on the exchange-system could just forward their > emails