RE: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-18 Thread Shayne Lebrun
sday, June 18, 2003 1:51 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was > We TEACH you how to ...) > > > [SNIP] > > > > Sorry Dave, I have to disagree with you here. As an admin who provi

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-18 Thread Jeremy Oddo
[SNIP] > > Sorry Dave, I have to disagree with you here. As an admin who provides > in-house support, I lose respect for the average human being. I cannot > tell you how many times I have to remove virii, reinstall s/w or entire > OSen, or remove spyware. These are adult who repeat their actions

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Jeremy Oddo
Jim Ford said: > On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 06:56:40PM -0400, Rick Macdougall wrote: > >> If everyone did that once a day, they might get the clue that the >> majority of their email isn't getting through (especially those >> clueless newbie spammers whos spam this list). > > They're anything but clu

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
> They're anything but clueless. The probably know that some users on this list > whitelist anything from lists.sourceforge.net - like me for instance! I'm sure that's quite true for most spammers but not all. I had to terminate someone's account once because they fell for the spam that said, "If

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Jim Ford
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 06:56:40PM -0400, Rick Macdougall wrote: > If everyone did that once a day, they might get the clue that the > majority of their email isn't getting through (especially those clueless > newbie spammers whos spam this list). They're anything but clueless. The probably kno

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Kelson Vibber
Steve Prior wrote: When I used to get telemarketing phone calls there were times when I was actually interested in the category of product being called about, but I always told the caller that it was too bad they had called because I am actually interested in such a product, but have a policy of ne

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
> It's actually not that bad...tastes like pork...but a little stringy. > Whoops! I've said too much! Hmm, pork... politicians... spammers... do I see a connection? > ...and this coming from a vegetarian. I should be ashamed of myself. Not really, it's okay to splurge... wait ... nevermind :-

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
> But _does_ it really hurt them. They don't get any feedback - users that > install spam filters wouldn't have responded to to the spam anyway, other > than deleting it manually. The only difference is that the deletion process is > automated by a spam filter. I reckon spammers don't really care a

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Jeremy Oddo
Benjamin A. Shelton said: >> Aw, can't we gather up enough $$ to buy out a congresscritter? I'm >> sure that we can get hunting licenses extended to spammers & those >> that buy from spammers... can we try? Please? > > > I like the hunting license part. Although I hear that they don't taste > part

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Jim Ford
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:23:47PM -0700, Jeremy Oddo wrote: > As I've stated before, I've cut down the amount of spam actually getting > to it's intended destination by over 98% by using SA. That's gotta be > hurting the spammers :) But _does_ it really hurt them. They don't get any feedback -

RE: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Vivek Khera
> "BJ" == Ben Johansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: BJ> LOL! BJ> Teaching implies that the student will learn and put the learning into BJ> practice. BJ> How can there be learnin' if their dead behind the shed? ;-) You assume the student is the one behind the shed.

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
> Aw, can't we gather up enough $$ to buy out a congresscritter? I'm sure > that we can get hunting licenses extended to spammers & those that buy > from spammers... can we try? Please? Well, it was said once by Mark Twain that here in the United States, "We have the best politicians money can buy

RE: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Ben Johansen
erver Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/AltN.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Oddo Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 1:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
> There is, of course, one other thing we need to do: we need to find those > people that BUY stuff from SPAM, take them out back and shoot them dead. > CAUTION: before implementing said procedure, please check with your local > law enforcement to determine if this is legal in your area. ;) WELL

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Jeremy Oddo
Yorkshire Dave said: > On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 18:35, Benjamin A. Shelton wrote: > >> >> The last article I read citing Jupiter research claimed >> per-user spam has been doubling every 42 days. I'd almost believe >> it... >> > > This is pure conjecture, but a pleasant thought. Maybe the spammer's >

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
> This is pure conjecture, but a pleasant thought. Maybe the spammer's > return rate is halving every 42 days and they're trying to compensate. Yes, it is pure conjecture but so are most of the statistics barfed out by some of these organizations anyway unless their methods are legitimate (I must