RE: [OpenID] OpenID Extension to handle Emails Addresses?

2008-10-30 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
Maybe because the DNS naming system is the Internet for all practical purposes. Think about the telephone system. What parts of the system today have remained the same for a century? Pretty much everything has changed, the telephones, the switches, the wires, even the assignment of the numbers

Re: [OpenID] OpenID Extension to handle Emails Addresses?

2008-10-30 Thread sky
I agree with using DNS. I would however suggest using TXT as a fallback from SRV. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Martin Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:51:12 To: Hallam-Baker, Phillip<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: ; OpenID List<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sub

Re: [OpenID] OpenID Extension to handle Emails Addresses?

2008-10-30 Thread Martin Atkins
Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: > > Well we already have a specification for that, it is the core > architecture of the Internet: DNS. We use the DNS SRV record for service > discovery. It is what it is designed for. It provides for fault > tolerance, load balancing, fall over just like an email M

RE: [OpenID] OpenID Extension to handle Emails Addresses?

2008-10-30 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
The Internet has an identifier for users - it is their email address. Trying to tech users to use anything else is pointless. As far as I am concerned, we have a hierarchy of usability interests here: Users: They come first, their needs are paramount and trump all others. Authentication c

Re: [OpenID] OpenID Extension to handle Emails Addresses?

2008-10-30 Thread Martin Atkins
David Fuelling wrote: > >1. The arguments about using DNS could apply to OpenID in general. > However, OpenID doesn't do anything with DNS. Why is this? What > were the compelling reasons to not use DNS with OpenID? Is there > an FAQ page somewhere about that? I have onl

Re: [OpenID] OpenID Extension to handle Emails Addresses?

2008-10-30 Thread David Fuelling
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Martin Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > David Fuelling wrote: > >> >> I would even entertain the notion of the OpenID extension doing DNS lookup >> first, then EAUT, though I need to think more on the topic. Alternatively, >> maybe we make DNS optional. >> >> >

Re: [OpenID] OpenID Extension to handle Emails Addresses?

2008-10-30 Thread Martin Atkins
David Fuelling wrote: > > I would even entertain the notion of the OpenID extension doing DNS > lookup first, then EAUT, though I need to think more on the topic. > Alternatively, maybe we make DNS optional. > At this point I'll throw in my more recent post about why DNS must be supported an

OpenID Extension to handle Emails Addresses?

2008-10-30 Thread David Fuelling
Wondering if it makes sense to talk about an OpenID Extension to handle email address, as opposed to changing the core spec? My thinking here is that EAUT could be used to solve much of this problem, but that an OpenID extension is required to add extra value. So, here's how I would see such an e