Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-18 Thread Johannes Ernst
On Oct 17, 2006, at 15:16, Recordon, David wrote: As I said back in September, I'm only tracking proposals listed on the wiki page. :) We have a process, yea! More power to the guy who gave us a process!!! Let's drive it to a conclusion, shall we? ;-) Cheers, Johannes. Johannes Ernst Ne

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Dick Hardt
> > --David > > -Original Message- > From: Dick Hardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:25 PM > To: Recordon, David > Cc: Josh Hoyt; specs@openid.net > Subject: Re: Summarizing Where We're At > > > On 16-Oct-06, at 3:24 PM

RE: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Recordon, David
yt; specs@openid.net Subject: Re: Summarizing Where We're At On 16-Oct-06, at 3:24 PM, Recordon, David wrote: > And here are my votes: > > Request nonce and name > * Take no action So you are saying to NOT rename the parameter? +1 rename nonce to response_nonce +1 to put request_

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Dick Hardt
On 17-Oct-06, at 2:30 PM, Josh Hoyt wrote: > On 10/17/06, Dick Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, authentication is optional in the spec, so perhaps we should >> pull that out and make it an extension? >> In order to just do attribute exchange, we have it so that the RP can >> decide NOT t

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Josh Hoyt
On 10/17/06, Dick Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, authentication is optional in the spec, so perhaps we should > pull that out and make it an extension? > In order to just do attribute exchange, we have it so that the RP can > decide NOT to request an identifier. Honestly, I think that'd

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Dick Hardt
On 17-Oct-06, at 11:52 AM, Josh Hoyt wrote: > On 10/17/06, Dick Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> * Authentication Age >> >> >> - Re-proposed today adding clarity in motivation, general >> >> >> consensus is >> >> >> needed to add to specification. >> >> > >> >> > -1 >> > >> > There is n

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Josh Hoyt
On 10/17/06, Dick Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> * Authentication Age > >> >> - Re-proposed today adding clarity in motivation, general > >> >> consensus is > >> >> needed to add to specification. > >> > > >> > -1 > > > > There is no reason for this to be in the core. I could make more >

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Dick Hardt
On 17-Oct-06, at 10:30 AM, Josh Hoyt wrote: > On 10/17/06, Dick Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Josh, would you elaborate on the reasoning behind your votes so that >> I (and others) understand? > > Sure. I'll try to be brief. Thanks! > >> > On 10/15/06, Recordon, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Josh Hoyt
On 10/17/06, Dick Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Josh, would you elaborate on the reasoning behind your votes so that > I (and others) understand? Sure. I'll try to be brief. > > On 10/15/06, Recordon, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> * Request Nonce and Name > >> - Has been partially i

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Dick Hardt
Josh, would you elaborate on the reasoning behind your votes so that I (and others) understand? On 16-Oct-06, at 11:21 AM, Josh Hoyt wrote: > Here are my reactions to what's outstanding: > > On 10/15/06, Recordon, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> * Request Nonce and Name >> - Has been parti

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Dick Hardt
On 16-Oct-06, at 3:24 PM, Recordon, David wrote: > And here are my votes: > > Request nonce and name > * Take no action So you are saying to NOT rename the parameter? +1 rename nonce to response_nonce +1 to put request_nonce in an extension for RP identity related functionality > Authentica

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Dick Hardt
On 15-Oct-06, at 7:25 PM, Recordon, David wrote: > Hi Chris, > The rush is that 2.0 has been in a drafting phase for almost six > months > now, with draft five being posted at the end of June. While we > certainly can continue taking the time to make everyone happy, we > ultimately will never

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Dick Hardt
On 16-Oct-06, at 11:21 AM, Josh Hoyt wrote: > >> * Bare Request >> - Proposed, no discussion yet. > > -0 (YAGNI) Sorry, I don't know what YAGNI means ... ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs

RE: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-16 Thread Drummond Reed
Recordon, David Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 3:24 PM To: Josh Hoyt; specs@openid.net Subject: RE: Summarizing Where We're At And here are my votes: Request nonce and name * Take no action Authentication age * -1, write as an extension first Remove setup_url * 0 for removing, +1 for a

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-16 Thread Mike Glover
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:24:25 -0700 "Recordon, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Change default session type > * +1 I'm not sure what changing the default buys us. The RP still has to create a public modulus and send it in the request in order to use DH, so there's still a positive action

RE: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-16 Thread Granqvist, Hans
I want to avoid the "wait-I-thought-we-decided-something-else" or "ahh-yes-seems-we-forgot-it-had-an-impact-there" delays . . . Spec work gain tremendously by unambiguous up-front definitions of what *exactly* is voted on. A good way to do this is to force the vote to be on an explici

RE: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-16 Thread Recordon, David
two-identifier Change default session type * +1 Bare request * 0 --David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh Hoyt Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 11:21 AM To: Recordon, David Cc: specs@openid.net Subject: Re: Summarizing Where We&#x

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-16 Thread Josh Hoyt
Here are my reactions to what's outstanding: On 10/15/06, Recordon, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Request Nonce and Name > - Has been partially implemented, openid.nonce -> > openid.response_nonce, no agreement on the need of a request nonce > specifically, rather discussion has evolved in

RE: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-15 Thread Recordon, David
--Original Message- From: Chris Drake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 7:09 PM To: Recordon, David Cc: specs@openid.net Subject: Re: Summarizing Where We're At Hi David, What is the rush for? There's a lot of unhappy people here due to missing protocol elements

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-15 Thread Chris Drake
Hi David, What is the rush for? There's a lot of unhappy people here due to missing protocol elements. I for one believe the lack of privacy considerations is an entire OpenID "killer". Is there a reason why you've omitted my IdP-initiated login proposal from your short list (also known as "boo