Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-07-02 Thread John Bradley
It is probably not good form to start using URI under http://schemas.opeinid.net without permission. Brenno and I are putting together a WG proposal for a registry of such things including AX attributes. We can put them in xrdstype.net but that is more informational than official. I don

Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-07-02 Thread Joseph A Holsten
On 1-Jul-09, at 5:21 PM, Breno de Medeiros wrote: Even much easier is to define a that can be discovered in the XRDS document, and requires no changes to AX libraries. On Jul 1, 2009, at 10:13 PM, John Bradley wrote: I think we agree. It is another URL for the registry:) OK, what should

Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-07-01 Thread John Bradley
Breno, I think we agree. It is another URL for the registry:) We just need to get some OP's to modify there RP discovery to support it. I know Andrew Arnott supports the idea so he will likely implement it in DotNetOpenAuth. If Google and some of the others go along it should be proble

Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-07-01 Thread Breno de Medeiros
Even much easier is to define a that can be discovered in the XRDS document, and requires no changes to AX libraries. On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 12:41 PM, John Bradley wrote: > One way would be for the library authors to include it without a approved > standard as it doesn't break anything. > -

Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-06-30 Thread John Bradley
27;t break anything. We just need to pick a type and do it. John B. On 30-Jun-09, at 3:00 PM, specs-requ...@openid.net wrote: Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:21:37 -0500 From: Joseph A Holsten Subject: Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL To: specs@openid.net Message-ID: <23b9be0b-ee67-4

Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-06-29 Thread Joseph A Holsten
On Jun 3, 2009, at 12:56 AM, Chris Messina wrote: Instead (and our WG process is really effed here), perhaps we should have a Policy Expression Extension (acronym pending) so that we could express things like this: xri://$xrds*simple http://schemas.openid.net/policies/privacy http://exa

Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-06-04 Thread Breno de Medeiros
+1 for making it discoverable. I worry about passing privacy policies in (unsigned) requests. Much better to have it discoverable from well-known-locations (hopefully using XRD 1.0 which has a less invasive approach to well-known-locations than Yadis). On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Santosh Raj

Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-06-03 Thread John Bradley
make something like this available quickly for those that want a lightweight solution for the missing AX functionality. John B. On 3-Jun-09, at 6:26 AM, specs-requ...@openid.net wrote: Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:56:27 -0700 From: Chris Messina Subject: Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-06-02 Thread Santosh Rajan
Chris Messina wrote: > > > I also think that RP discovery makes a lot of sense, and that really this > stuff should all live in /host-meta. > > Yes I think so too. - Santosh Rajan http://santrajan.blogspot.com http://santrajan.blogspot.com -- View this message in context: http://w

Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-06-02 Thread Chris Messina
I worry a little about dumping this into the UX extension, because it's not the logical place to look for it. Instead (and our WG process is really effed here), perhaps we should have a Policy Expression Extension (acronym pending) so that we could express things like this: xri://$xrds*simple

Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-06-02 Thread Luke Shepard
+1 RP discovery. If something is likely to persist beyond the active request, then it shouldn't be in the request necessarily. RP discovery would allow, for instance, an OP to show a page of all RPs a user has connected to, and links to their respective privacy policies. They can model the OP a

Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-06-02 Thread SitG Admin
Would internationalizing entail the OP getting the URL for the RP's privacy policy in the right language? If so, why not just have one URL and let the RP detect the user agent's preferred language? (Yes, I know the UI extension has this for the reason that the user agent isn't properly configu

Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-06-02 Thread John Bradley
st start publishing it. It isn't like we haven't done that in the past. SREG was never adopted as a standard. John B. On 2-Jun-09, at 2:28 PM, specs-requ...@openid.net wrote: Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 11:27:44 -0700 From: Andrew Arnott Subject: Re: SREG's Privacy Policy U

Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-06-02 Thread Andrew Arnott
Whether we go for passing a parameter or not, I like the idea of (also) having RP discovery offer a URL as well so that unsolicited assertions from OPs can show the privacy policy to the user. -- Andrew Arnott "I [may] not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to

Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-06-02 Thread Allen Tom
The internationalization problem is one of the reasons why it might make more sense for the privacy policy url to be passed in as a parameter by the RP. The RP already is passing the user's language to the OP as part of the UI extension, so we could just make this an additional parameter. Alte

Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-06-02 Thread John Bradley
. John B. On 2-Jun-09, at 1:56 PM, specs-requ...@openid.net wrote: Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 10:55:55 -0700 From: Allen Tom Subject: Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL To: Luke Shepard , "specs@openid.net" Message-ID: <4a2567ab.10...@yahoo-inc.com> Content-Type:

Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-06-02 Thread Andrew Arnott
Would internationalizing entail the OP getting the URL for the RP's privacy policy in the right language? If so, why not just have one URL and let the RP detect the user agent's preferred language? (Yes, I know the UI extension has this for the reason that the user agent isn't properly configured,

Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-06-02 Thread Johannes Ernst
Is there a way this can be internationalized? On Jun 2, 2009, at 11:14, Allen Tom wrote: OK, how about if we define a new Privacy Policy for RPs to include in their XRDS, with a link to their privacy policy? So the RP would just include the following snippet in its discovery document, dis

Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-06-02 Thread Andrew Arnott
I like this idea best. UI spec, and a future version of the AX spec can mention this. -- Andrew Arnott "I [may] not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." - S. G. Tallentyre On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Allen Tom wrote: > OK, how about if we d

Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-06-02 Thread Allen Tom
OK, how about if we define a new Privacy Policy for RPs to include in their XRDS, with a link to their privacy policy? So the RP would just include the following snippet in its discovery document, discoverable under its realm: http://specs.openid.net/path/to/privacy/policy http://www.rely

Re: SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-06-02 Thread George Fletcher
I think for a short-term solution we'd need to define service "types" for the privacy policy and TOS for XRDS. For the long-term, the same could potentially be used as "rel" values in the XRD markup. The XRD spec is solidifying but is not 100% stable. I think we should have a discovery option

SREG's Privacy Policy URL

2009-06-02 Thread Allen Tom
Hi All, The Simple Registration Extension provides an interface for the RP to pass the OP a link to the RP's privacy policy in the authentication request. According to the SREG spec, OPs SHOULD display this URL to the End User if it is given. http://openid.net/specs/openid-simple-registratio