Re: [spectre] if you want to unsubscribe from spectre... was: (no subject)

2017-03-27 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Am 21/03/17 um 17:24 schrieb Joseph Rabie: > Van de Merwe This one is very good: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_van_der_Merwe Best, H. __ SPECTRE list for media culture in Deep Europe Info, archive and help: http://post.in-mind.de/cgi-bin/mailm

Re: [spectre] THE GIFT

2014-11-02 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Am 02/11/14 22:54, schrieb hello | florian kuhlmann: > > perhaps its a good a idea to say hello 2 good bye CC now. > It is not free. It is just security that it is free for the industry with some incentives for artists to have the pleasure to be mentioned as artist with their very name etc by th

Re: [spectre] THE GIFT

2014-11-01 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Very impressive. But my biggest concern was to trash the Creative Commons license. Artists should not use it. It is kitsch. H. > On 02.11.2014, at 01:46, James Morris wrote: > > >> On 01/11/14 16:09, Heiko Recktenwald wrote: >> Very good idea in ASCII. > Thanks for th

Re: [spectre] THE GIFT

2014-11-01 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Very good idea in ASCII. But I would trash anything CC, it is free or not and we should not care about any identification problem of any industry. Because that is what CC is all about. And the authors name, you hear it. H. Am 31/10/14 22:39, schrieb James Morris: > 250 images of a walk around

Re: [spectre] meanwhile in Russia

2014-06-10 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Am 10.06.2014 02:53, schrieb Janos Sugar: > though. Professors and students protested the university's choice > and, at the last moment, the ceremony was canceled. > http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117896/vladimir-medinsky-russias-culture-minister-putin-toady > Do you thinlk that protest was

Re: [spectre] Why Europe's Far Right Is on the Kremlin's Side

2014-04-01 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
To be on the Kremlin side it is enough to notice the reality. Please read Art. 111 of the constitution of the Ukraine. And please read the Kosovo-case of the ICJ. There is no need for any right to a sesession, it must only happen and may not be an act of agression. But in civil war all sides can

Re: [spectre] Palestine : Only free men can negociate (Nelson Mandela)

2012-11-28 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Jedenfalls schwierig, neutral zu bleiben, H. Am 29.11.2012 02:00, schrieb i...@i-a-m.tk: > LONG LIVE ISRAEL! > > > > > > > > INSTITUT FÜR ALLES MÖGLICHE > WWW.I-A-M.TK > > facebook us now! www.facebook.com/institutfuerallesmoegliche > > Am 29.11.2012 um 01:24 schrieb Louise Desrenards: > >> Epi

Re: [spectre] Digital Legacies of the Avant Garde

2012-04-13 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Very good idea and very good design, chapeau! So lets call ourselves simply avant-gardists or traditionalists and lets forget any notion of net.art. The net just looks different, H. Am 13.04.2012 08:27, schrieb Franck Ancel: > The Digital Legacies of the Avant-Garde is a two-day internation

Re: [spectre] in your ass

2011-10-12 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
<< what do u mean? could you please help out? >> Dito und habs vergessen. Namen und domains... Man kann viel programmieren, php ist sehr verbreitet. Recht nett fand ich auch immer director: http://heikorecktenwald.de/sile2hop.html Try to hit one of the two dancing squares with the mouse,

Re: [spectre] in your ass

2011-10-12 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Florian, I remember much better stuff. A page from Cologne comes to mind. Lighter and more light. Less is more. Pedantically, H. Am 12.10.2011 13:20, schrieb hello | florian kuhlmann: pretty heavy pixelated clicking stuff #very nice. i bookmarked http://www.bbrace.net/A/Almost-Any-Other.

Re: [spectre] New Media Art Organisations in Netherlands lose funding

2011-06-15 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Am 15.06.2011 12:23, schrieb Josephine Bosma: hi Stephen and others, It is not a naive idea at all imo. The only problem with it is that, see Heiko's reaction, it needs a thorough argumentation and a readily acceptance of experts in the field. What is at stake, I think, is the place of art i

Re: [spectre] New Media Art Organisations in Netherlands lose funding

2011-06-15 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
NOPE! When the day is over you want to keep a present and why should new media institution have any better case than theaters, museums, universities, orchestras and the like? Get real, H. Am 15.06.2011 11:38, schrieb Alessandro Ludovico: And then what about joining forces with the UK affe

Re: [spectre] Re: The Juxtaposium / open letter to event organisers

2011-04-22 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Julian is in Berlin and I would come, H. Am 22.04.2011 17:38, schrieb Esther Polak: Dear All, 1 I think there are already plenty symposia and event’s going on each year. We never intended to ad another one, we wanted to challenge existing practice. 2 I believe it the professionalism o

Re: [spectre] media art and dictatorial regimes

2008-06-30 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Armin Well, I dont see that discussion happening at all. I only notice a deafening silence. There are new talks announced and reports of any bloody suppression of a revolt were not confirmed. My favourite book on China is Richard Huelsenbeck (of dada fame) "China isst Menschen" on the riots

Re: [spectre] n0name newsletter #123

2008-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Beim umstaendlichen Bau der Tabelle des Zugplans der Deportationen ins KL Auschwitz 1943 (die Lufthansa und die Nachfolge-Organisation der Reichsbahn, die DB waeren in diesem Zusammenhang zu nennen) Das ist der "Made in Germany" Aspekt. Wovon das Holocaust-Mahnmal eher nur ablenkt. Aber keine

Re: [spectre] Arab Women Active in the Arts and Media

2007-08-15 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
http://www.metimes.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20070803-050334-7878r This is a Carnival. For the first time the muslims come out of their subculture. The size of towers etc and more. There are plans for an avant-garde mosquee in London, that is much bigger and flat. I dont think that towers

Re: [spectre] Arab Women Active in the Arts and Media

2007-08-14 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Hi, Hmm, so I'm wondering how you fit subway bombings and such into the category "no problems"? Those are not problems with "the Arabs". Speak with Hamas, the Taliban, Hezbollah. Let them speak in British Councils, here and there. H. __ SPECT

Re: [spectre] Arab Women Active in the Arts and Media

2007-08-14 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Joseph Gray wrote: The problems between the middle-east and the west have been going on for much longer than 40 years, They do piracy and take hostages all the time, since centuries, like Europeans, but besides that there are no problems at all. and these conflicts are not just cultural,

Re: [spectre] Arab Women Active in the Arts and Media

2007-08-11 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
http://stopthemadrassa.wordpress.com/ is so extremly typical. The same sound in Cologne. We have to learn much more than the Arabs. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/11/nyregion/11school.html?ref=nyregion , http://nyc.indymedia.org/en/2007/08/89207.html _

[spectre] Arab Women Active in the Arts and Media

2007-08-11 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Well, I asked google for the "Arab Women Active in the Arts and Media" (tm), who printed the "Intifada NYC" T-shirt, that created the scandal at that Arab public school, see http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/11/nyregion/11school.html?ref=nyregion , and I came over http://nyc.indymedia.org/en/20

Re: [spectre] Arabia Plan

2007-08-11 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
IMHO there is no "cultural" problem at all, but a political one. See for example http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/11/nyregion/11school.html?ref=nyregion Cultural diversity means to let the Arabs be different. http://portal.unesco.org/culture/en/ev.php-URL_ID=14105&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=20

Re: [spectre] Arabia Plan

2007-08-11 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Cultural diversity means to let the Arabs be different. The idea is to help the Arabs express themselves in Europe and the US, let them build Arab Councils in London and Washington DC, and not the other way round. H. Joseph Gray wrote: http://portal.unesco.org/culture/en/ev.php-URL_ID=14105

Re: [spectre] British Council quits Europe to woo Muslim world

2007-08-09 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Joseph Gray wrote: The writer Heiko Recktenwald writ: • IMHO there is (a) is no such a barrier between single persons . And if • there is (b) a barrier between societies, groups, it may be based in • politics and may have good reasons. The barrier is the belief that one side is right and the

Re: [spectre] British Council quits Europe to woo Muslim world

2007-08-08 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Joseph Gray wrote: The writer Heiko Recktenwald writ: •> The cultural barriers between the West and the Middle-East do need •> removal. • This is interesting as well. IMHO there is (a) is no such a barrier between single persons . And if there is (b) a barrier between societies,

Re: [spectre] British Council quits Europe to woo Muslim world

2007-08-08 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Hi, Joseph Gray wrote: Interesting article. The cultural barriers between the West and the Middle-East do need removal. This is interesting as well. Best, H. __ SPECTRE list for media culture in Deep Europe Info, archive and help: http://coredum

Re: [spectre] not just an invitation to the hive un-launch

2007-06-09 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Now we invite you to explore the current development phase of the project and hear about art projects past, present and future. We welcome media practitioners, curators, organisers and researchers to examine the project, give advice and come up with ideas for future developments. www.hivenetwo

[spectre] Funky

2007-05-24 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
It is very easy to write and not so very easy to detect: << FayeKane_HomelessSmartypants wrote: The dems and amnesty and all the liberals in the world are wasting their time. Until 2008, nothing will change. Just keep uncovering the abuses until then. Thye problem is that the dems will l

Re: [spectre] Final call: Quicktime as an artistic medium

2007-05-15 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Quicktime is nothing, at least not an "artistic medium". Video may be an artistic medium, ok, to embed movies in a webpage may be an artistic practice, but anything more is rubbish. H. [videoNet] wrote: Final call for entries deadline 31 May 2007 --> Theme: Slowtime 2007 - Quicktime as an ar

Re: [spectre] Fwd: [CAS] Herbert Franke events

2007-04-23 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
For more information on Herbert W. Franke please see: www.zi-biologie.uni-muenchen.de/~franke http://www.biologie.uni-muenchen.de/~franke/ does work. Bavaria, T-Systems etc, Heimat II, Joseph Anton Riedel, maybe Siemens, I would like to know more of the local corporate background.

Re: [spectre] deadline extended: Quicktime as an artistic medium

2007-03-08 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
As Quicktime was undergoing a rapid technological development during the past years, it is time again for exploring the current state of Quicktime and its use as a medium for artistic expressions. What? __ SPECTRE list for media culture in Deep

Re: [spectre] Two MIME types for three MPEG Video Playlists at Hyperreal.com

2007-03-06 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Well the basics: Get Apples Darwin Streaming Server and some rtsp://localhost/eno1.mp4 and point your browser to: http://hyperreal.com/ This "One Click Streaming" testbed does work with modem, the streaming itself does happen on your local machine. Install DSS and put some eno1.mp4 into /us

[spectre] Two MIME types for three MPEG Video Playlists at Hyperreal.com

2007-03-04 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Get Apples Darwin Streaming Server and some rtsp://localhost/eno1.mp4 and point your browser to: http://hyperreal.com/ Kids are allowed to put HTTP MPEG Video streams into RTSP MPEG Video Playlists as well. Our favourite HTTP MPEG Video Playlist player is Arpad Gereoffys open source mpla

Re: [spectre] Workshop - Remote Presence: Streaming Life - call for applications

2007-02-19 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Btw, can somebody make http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpeg-recorder run? << The program is capable of (...) streaming MPEG-4 audio and video via Apple Darwin Streaming Server. >> Sotosay an open source "Quicktime Broadcaster" for Windows. Maybe more handy than the Helix Mobile Producer etc a

[Fwd: Re: [spectre] Web 2.0 sux, so what?]

2007-02-05 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Re: [spectre] Web 2.0 sux, so what? Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:08:06 +0100 From: Natalie Gravenor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Heiko Recktenwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Stefan Heidenreich is absolutely right! Sad but true. Only Transmediale&

[spectre] Web 2.0 sux, so what?

2007-02-04 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
http://www.taz.de/pt/2007/02/03/a0212.1/text he is dreaming of some sort of popculture, what does he want? H. __ SPECTRE list for media culture in Deep Europe Info, archive and help: http://coredump.buug.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/spectre

[spectre] Re: Greenpeace launches greenmyapple campaign

2007-01-27 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Well, Geert Lovink wrote: (after e-waste campaigns such as http://www.e-waste.ch/ this greenpeace initiative, targetted at apple, seems to be the next level, focussed on the production, and no longer on the recycling economy and the management of the waste side of computer use. geert) http:/

Re: [spectre] Wolfgang Hagen: Das Radio (Second Part)

2006-12-28 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
It was more a Hi zu spectre. IMHO maillists and usenet are or were the best Web 2.0 can accomplish. Best, H. tnvh wrote: hey, why don't you leave your comments in the blog: http://www.formatlabor.net/blog/ best tvnh Heiko Recktenwald said: There is some connection with Rudolf Ar

Re: [spectre] Wolfgang Hagen: Das Radio (Second Part)

2006-12-27 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
There is some connection with Rudolf Arnheim, who came first in this thread (in thunderbird), see: Rundfunk als Hoerkunst. The so called "Brecht Radiotheory", how could that be construed without central servers a la "Web 2.0"? Best, H. tnvh wrote: The Department of videolectures and telepat

Re: [spectre] Welcome to the "Underfire" mailing list

2006-10-23 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
The benefits of the same name? Online communities and ownership, to kick people etc, to sell users, to sell users to the advertisement industry, Youtube etc, somebody was kicked from an archive as well? What is the code of conduct today? H. Geert Lovink wrote: you may have received the

Re: [spectre] The pope the emperor the religions as culture

2006-10-01 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Why the pope would have corrected it as soon as possible if there would not be a hard problem? I dont think he has anything corrected, he just made clear what he had allready said. Read that speech, it is at vatican.com, with a rather ugly background gif. Maybe I am a little bit picky he

Re: [spectre] The pope the emperor the religions as culture

2006-09-30 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
To equate the Pop with Bush is absolutely BS and it does not get better if it is done by somebody we like. H. Louise Desrenards wrote: __ SPECTRE list for media culture in Deep Europe Info, archive and help: http://coredump.buug.de/cgi-bin/mailman/li

Re: [spectre] The pope the emperor the religions as culture

2006-09-30 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Uri Avnery is putting things in a strange order, whatever this is good for, and, most important, people like to overlook it, he forgets to tell us that the question, it was not more than a question, was part of a longer conversation amongst FRIENDS! At the end of the 14th century, the Emperor M

Re: [spectre] THEAUSTRIANABSTRACTS

2006-09-26 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Marc, I am just disappointed with the reaction of the art world in the 5 years after 9/11. And it is not about "art" in general, but about more or less "famous art", that made it into newspapers etc. There is probably a lot of "good" street art, London etc, and I probably did not search the

Re: [spectre] THEAUSTRIANABSTRACTS

2006-09-25 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Indeed, "5 years of bad art after 9/11" comes to mind. It is incredible, that the ONLY convincing internationally known political art against Abu Graib etc is by good old Botero, who is believed to paint for society ladies. Maybe he was never unpolitical with his fat officers etc. Net.art se

Re: [spectre] 9/11 & Memorial for the Victims of Terror

2006-09-11 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Surprise, surprise, how lame! Why victims of terror, why not victiums of war or violence? Women in Africa etc included. A "terror" attack, what did happen? Here is Bonn there are currently people who want justice for the "murder" of their cat. Art and life, H. The Memorial was created as a

Re: [spectre] news... news... news (or not)

2006-08-14 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Nice playlist, but who is playing whos game, are the US playing Israels game or vice versa, is maybe more complicated. Somebody once wrote of the "Holocast industry", maybe there is an "US/Israel industry" as well, in the US, that acts in its own interest or at least not in the interest of Isr

Re: [spectre] [iDC]: Call for Interventions

2006-08-06 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Hi Sascha, Hezbollahs low tech "chinese watertorture" seems to work. You are starting to compare things to Rwanda, are you serious? Proportionality sascha brossmann wrote: arms department, huh?) – *as well*? i. am. *so* *fed* *up* with this ongoing selective perception and lack of refle

Re: [spectre] Conflicting Shoes

2006-07-29 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Nat, nat muller wrote: dear aharon, first of all, i don't wish to be disrespectful in any way...knowing well how reactions on mailing lists can deteriorate into self-righteous and non-constructive replies. And what is constructiv? What we discussed here, Israels responsibility for the bomb

Re: [spectre] Re: spectre] Save the Lebanese Civilians Petition

2006-07-20 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Dear Rene, the isreali children that were killed by hezbollah rockets They are dead. But those rockets were a reaction to Israels bombs and, if we call the bombs on the Lebanon an unproportional response, not covered anymore by Israels right of self-defense, the right of self-defense has l

Re: [spectre] Re: spectre] Save the Lebanese Civilians Petition

2006-07-19 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Louise, Louise Desrenards wrote: the moment the representative army of Lebanon has not assaulted Israel. 40 % or so are muslim, right? Hezbollah is "Arab Nation", Syria, Iran (not Arab), ... So what, please? I ask for more information; I do not understand why you want mean so

Re: [spectre] Re: spectre] Save the Lebanese Civilians Petition

2006-07-19 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
This petition declares that Lebanon is assaulted by the representative army of Israel: I do not see where yourselves can see an alternative in this declaration at the moment the representative army of Lebanon has not assaulted Israel. It argues of laws in matter of offense by a state to another

Re: [spectre] Re: spectre] Save the Lebanese Civilians Petition

2006-07-18 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
rene beekman wrote: true, hezbollah will never stop firing rockets at isreali villages and schools using the civilian population of neighboring sovereign countries as hostage and human shield But artists could ask why Israel does not want to speak with "Terrorists". H. because of some onli

Re: [spectre] RE: Save the Lebanese Civilians Petition

2006-07-18 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
The question of a humanitarian intervention is in the air. Do you think all options are equal? sam langford wrote: no disrespect to you Louise, i agree with all you say, but what is another petition going to do? - in fact i've kind of wondered what happens to all of them...what does happen to

Re: [spectre] INTELLIGENT AGENT 6.1 Launch

2006-07-07 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Pauvre Brad, radical fee is great! H. { brad brace } wrote: still you haplessly instill new names for the same ol' schtick - your little jerk-circle of artworld-acolytes... On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, sen ten wrote: INTELLIGENT AGENT Vol. 6 No. 1 /:b "Nothing can be said about the se

[spectre] Jaron Lanier Superstar

2006-06-16 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
There may be a lot of mediocre bullshit in the net, but this snippet from todays BPBs e-feuilleton just shows, that JL is a superidiot. Virtual Reality, wasnt that kitsch anyway? Sometimes you meet people in the net and see suddenly how they really are, whatever they say later. My experience w

[spectre] Handke

2006-05-31 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
I think this is still an interesting text, just found in on the harddrive. He is essentially right, allthough I didnt follow him politically. The interventions came much to late and an early clear word would have been -- maybe -- enough. Clear words, thats what he is fighting for too, Heine is

Re: [spectre] Ask the right of mobility for artists

2006-05-22 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
nkos money, tomorrow it will be social security, whatever, with the same attitude, maybe, maybe not. I let it open, maybe others have other ideas, thanks for your thoughfull inspiring reply, best, H. Louise Desrenards wrote: Sorry for my bad Anglophone writing... Dear Heiko Recktenwald, Of cour

[spectre] What is the MPEG Video Playlist game?

2006-05-03 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
http://cliffhangerer.blog.de/ __ SPECTRE list for media culture in Deep Europe Info, archive and help: http://coredump.buug.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/spectre

[spectre] Van or van

2006-04-18 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0,70664-0.html?tw=wn_index_2 have fun, H. __ SPECTRE list for media culture in Deep Europe Info, archive and help: http://coredump.buug.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/spectre

Re: [spectre] History of MPEG Video Playlists

2006-04-14 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
selecting values for a one or more selection criteria. ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BLyfF5meT4 is on slavery. Revolution or not, H. mailia Heiko Recktenwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Video.google.com, www.youtube.com, www.veoh.com etc, there are playlists as well, see:

[spectre] History of MPEG Video Playlists

2006-04-14 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Video.google.com, www.youtube.com, www.veoh.com etc, there are playlists as well, see: http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/history.html for example. Berlusconi, Bush, as time goes by... Best, H. http://mpegurl.blog.de __ SPECTRE list for media cu

Re: [Fwd: Re: [spectre] Artists Lick Curators Ass at Higher Institute For Fine Arts!]

2006-03-26 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
thing that makes the read so easy is that the author so ... mailia Heiko Recktenwald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am sorry, I have problems with such art, also with the stuff at http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=kristoferpaetau . Why should we teach children to kill George Bush? I

[Fwd: Re: [spectre] Artists Lick Curators Ass at Higher Institute For Fine Arts!]

2006-03-26 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
I am sorry, I have problems with such art, also with the stuff at http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=kristoferpaetau . Why should we teach children to kill George Bush? It is interesting that they choose the eyes, but they dont know anything and so it is nothing more than lynching. And lynchi

[spectre] "Who owns the reel?"

2006-02-20 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
http://mpegurl.blog.de Think about it! The usual leporello, a series of jpgs and texts to illustrate the not very new but maybe more and more important MPEG Video Playlist game. How can we construe short movies, sotosay elements of sense, that can be put into a series of URL? There is a te

[spectre] [Fwd: [NETLAW-L] p2p = Grundversorgung?]

2005-12-23 Diskussionsfäden Heiko Recktenwald
Thomas is klasse, promoviert gerade ueber den Datenschutz, nach dem Motto Datenschutz ist Schwachsinn, was ich allerdings nicht so klasse finde, Heiko Voila: Interessant, was französische Abgeordnete jetzt gerade beschlossen haben: p2p-Börsen sollen dadurch "legalisiert" werden (anstatt wei