Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-08 Thread Jonathon Jongsma
On Fri, 2014-12-05 at 23:08 +0100, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Jonathon Jongsma wrote: > > For what it's worth, I basically agree with Christophe and Jeremy. > > (Although I think that describing it as "mandatory code review" is > > over-stating the case a bit -- th

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-08 Thread Christophe Fergeau
Hey, On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 10:06:13AM -0600, Jonathon Jongsma wrote: > Hrm, after trawling the patchwork mailing list archives, it appears that > it's not actually possible to change the patch state via email. The > authors consider this to be insecure since anybody could change the > review sta

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-08 Thread Jonathon Jongsma
On Sat, 2014-12-06 at 00:14 +0200, Alon Levy wrote: > On 12/06/2014 12:00 AM, Jonathon Jongsma wrote: > > On Fri, 2014-12-05 at 23:41 +0200, Alon Levy wrote: > >> [snip] > >>> > >>> At the same time, I'm not sure mailing lists are the right tool for code > >>> review. It's difficult to track which

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-08 Thread Uri Lublin
On 12/08/2014 02:53 PM, Marc-André Lureau wrote: On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Uri Lublin wrote: With current workflow, you have no guaratee that unreviewed patch go there by mistake or maliciously. We would need a tool for that. For me this is the job of maintainer to quickly review each com

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-08 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 01:53:43PM +0100, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > This contradicts a bit the fact that you can do commit without review. > > I said "quickly", doing thorough review of all commits before a > release is not doable. But it is the role of the maintainer to check > all the commits

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-08 Thread Marc-André Lureau
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Uri Lublin wrote: >> With current workflow, you have no guaratee that unreviewed patch go >> there by mistake or maliciously. We would need a tool for that. >> For me this is the job of maintainer to quickly review each commit >> before release. > > > I disagree. >

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-08 Thread Uri Lublin
On 12/05/2014 05:52 PM, Marc-André Lureau wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Christophe Fergeau wrote: On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 03:57:29PM +0100, Marc-André Lureau wrote: The blame will be anyway on the one who typed it forever. I have absolutely no interest in blaming people after the fac

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-08 Thread Uri Lublin
On 12/06/2014 04:04 AM, Fabiano Fidêncio wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Marc-André Lureau wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Jonathon Jongsma wrote: For what it's worth, I basically agree with Christophe and Jeremy. I agree with Marc-André here. I too agree with Marc-Andre abou

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-08 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 07:18:50PM +0100, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > Where did you see that all patches have to be mandatorily reviewed in > Spice? We always had a trivial push rule, and you always complained > about it. That's all I know. What I remember from my first few years in SPICE was that

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-05 Thread Fabiano Fidêncio
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Jonathon Jongsma wrote: >> For what it's worth, I basically agree with Christophe and Jeremy. >> (Although I think that describing it as "mandatory code review" is >> over-stating the case a bit -- there

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-05 Thread Alon Levy
On 12/06/2014 12:00 AM, Jonathon Jongsma wrote: > On Fri, 2014-12-05 at 23:41 +0200, Alon Levy wrote: >> [snip] >>> >>> At the same time, I'm not sure mailing lists are the right tool for code >>> review. It's difficult to track which patches have been reviewed and >>> which haven't. >> >> http://

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-05 Thread Marc-André Lureau
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Jonathon Jongsma wrote: > For what it's worth, I basically agree with Christophe and Jeremy. > (Although I think that describing it as "mandatory code review" is > over-stating the case a bit -- there is nothing but peer pressure and > polite requests preventing co

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-05 Thread Jonathon Jongsma
On Fri, 2014-12-05 at 23:41 +0200, Alon Levy wrote: > [snip] > > > > At the same time, I'm not sure mailing lists are the right tool for code > > review. It's difficult to track which patches have been reviewed and > > which haven't. > > http://patchwork.freedesktop.org/project/Spice/list/ can h

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-05 Thread Alon Levy
[snip] > > At the same time, I'm not sure mailing lists are the right tool for code > review. It's difficult to track which patches have been reviewed and > which haven't. http://patchwork.freedesktop.org/project/Spice/list/ can help, linked from the wiki btw (http://www.spice-space.org/page/Mai

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-05 Thread Jonathon Jongsma
On Fri, 2014-12-05 at 21:34 +0100, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > Hi > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Jeremy White wrote: > > To be clear, I am an advocate of mandatory review. I, personally, would not > > want to ever push a patch unless someone else has at least glanced at it. > > Thanks, it w

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-05 Thread Marc-André Lureau
Hi On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Jeremy White wrote: > To be clear, I am an advocate of mandatory review. I, personally, would not > want to ever push a patch unless someone else has at least glanced at it. Thanks, it was pretty clear already. Nevertheless, you didn't bring this before (did y

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-05 Thread Jeremy White
May be the other raison Jeremy step up is because of this noisy and endless discussion. To be clear, I am an advocate of mandatory review. I, personally, would not want to ever push a patch unless someone else has at least glanced at it. Cheers, Jeremy _

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-05 Thread Marc-André Lureau
Hi On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Christophe Fergeau wrote: > On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 06:03:42PM +0100, Marc-André Lureau wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Christophe Fergeau >> wrote: >> > What is so bad with having a commit delayed for a few hours while it's >> > waiting for reviews?

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-05 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 06:03:42PM +0100, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Christophe Fergeau > wrote: > > What is so bad with having a commit delayed for a few hours while it's > > waiting for reviews? > > It is mainly the difference between asking someone to take an a

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-05 Thread Marc-André Lureau
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Christophe Fergeau wrote: > On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 04:52:49PM +0100, Marc-André Lureau wrote: >> "Use autoreconf, allow out of tree autogen.sh run." > > Nowhere it says that you just got rid of the existing autogen.sh and > replaced it with something else, you only

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-05 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 04:52:49PM +0100, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > By that I mean that they are aware of the responsability of doing > unreview commit. Yup, except we disagree on the importance of good commit messages for example. > > > > >> Nothing like replacing a crufted autogen with an obv

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-05 Thread Marc-André Lureau
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Christophe Fergeau wrote: > On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 03:57:29PM +0100, Marc-André Lureau wrote: >> The blame will be anyway on the one who >> typed it forever. > > I have absolutely no interest in blaming people after the fact, I prefer > to fix things before the mis

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-05 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 03:57:29PM +0100, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > Ok, but a commit message is not as important as the change itself, > although it's not reversible. But it's far from being unimportant. > The blame will be anyway on the one who > typed it forever. I have absolutely no interest

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-05 Thread Marc-André Lureau
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Christophe Fergeau wrote: >> But to me, it makes the project less friendly if people have no trust >> to each other for the most basic and obvious improvements. > > Basic, obvious is very subjective... It's not a matter of trusting > people or not (I'm the person I

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-05 Thread Christophe Fergeau
Hey, On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 08:46:16AM -0500, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > - Original Message - > > >>> Yes, that it should not have been pushed. > > > > I agree. > > > > I would prefer we eliminated the trivial push rule altogether. > > I agree, if it can help to avoid this kind of endl

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-05 Thread Jeremy White
I agree, if it can help to avoid this kind of endless discussion. :-/. Yes, a good point. But to me, it makes the project less friendly if people have no trust to each other for the most basic and obvious improvements. I am not talking about controversial or complicated fixes. But doc addi

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-05 Thread Marc-André Lureau
Hi - Original Message - > >>> Yes, that it should not have been pushed. > > I agree. > > I would prefer we eliminated the trivial push rule altogether. I agree, if it can help to avoid this kind of endless discussion. But to me, it makes the project less friendly if people have no trus

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-05 Thread Jeremy White
Yes, that it should not have been pushed. I agree. I would prefer we eliminated the trivial push rule altogether. Cheers, Jeremy ___ Spice-devel mailing list Spice-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-04 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 12:09:15PM -0500, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > Hi > > - Original Message - > > On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 05:59:07PM +0100, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Christophe Fergeau > > > wrote: > > > > Replacing autogen.sh with a totally differe

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-04 Thread Marc-André Lureau
Hi - Original Message - > On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 05:59:07PM +0100, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Christophe Fergeau > > wrote: > > > Replacing autogen.sh with a totally different one is _not_ something > > > trivial. > > > > It is to me, it took me about a

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-04 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 05:59:07PM +0100, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Christophe Fergeau > wrote: > > Replacing autogen.sh with a totally different one is _not_ something > > trivial. > > It is to me, it took me about a minute to do all that. It is also > trivial t

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-04 Thread Marc-André Lureau
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Christophe Fergeau wrote: > Replacing autogen.sh with a totally different one is _not_ something > trivial. It is to me, it took me about a minute to do all that. It is also trivial to remove it or change it. Do you have something to say about the change itself? -

Re: [Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-04 Thread Christophe Fergeau
On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 05:42:18PM +0100, Marc-André Lureau wrote: > Use autoreconf, allow out of tree autogen.sh run. > --- > Pushed upstream as trivial build fix. Replacing autogen.sh with a totally different one is _not_ something trivial. Christophe pgpF0gZjXIhYD.pgp Description: PGP signat

[Spice-devel] [PATCH spice-protocol] build-sys: simplify autogen

2014-12-04 Thread Marc-André Lureau
Use autoreconf, allow out of tree autogen.sh run. --- Pushed upstream as trivial build fix. autogen.sh | 167 - 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 157 deletions(-) diff --git a/autogen.sh b/autogen.sh index 7d7c534..de6881d 100755 --- a/a