Re: [spring] Typo correction Re: Question from SPRING regarding draft-filsfilscheng-spring-srv6-srh-compression

2021-10-15 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Mark, Not sure what is incorrect in what I mentioned. Checksum neutrality is a distinct issue than the original question from Joel. That was discussed in the RFCs cited in the previous message. That’s said, I’m not sure that’s an issue for SRH given that the encap will need to be updated an

Re: [spring] Typo correction Re: Question from SPRING regarding draft-filsfilscheng-spring-srv6-srh-compression

2021-10-14 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Joel , all, C-SID is no more than another mechanism that relies on some algorithmic mapping embedded in the IPv6 address. We do have already many of such algorithmic approaches: RFC6052, RFC7597, etc. The internal structure would be problematic if it requires that every intermediate node

Re: [spring] IPR call for draft-ietf-spring-nsh-sr

2021-02-09 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi all, As a co-author, I confirm that I don't have any IPR nor I'm aware of any related to this draft. It seems that we missed to include some MTU considerations in the text. Although these issues are not specific to this spec, but reminding the issues would be helpful. Adding a pointer to Se

Re: [spring] IPR Poll: draft-guichard-spring-nsh-sr

2019-06-26 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Chairs, all, I don’t have any IPR nor I’m aware of any related to this I-D. Cheers, Med De : Rob Shakir [mailto:ro...@google.com] Envoyé : jeudi 27 juin 2019 08:14 À : draft-guichard-spring-nsh...@ietf.org; SPRING WG List Objet : IPR Poll: draft-guichard-spring-nsh-sr Hi Authors, SPRING WG, In

Re: [spring] [mpls] [sfc] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

2018-03-21 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Daniel, I’m afraid that the comparison with DC routing is misleading here. It is still possible to use your favorite transport encapsulation with the approach endorsed by the IETF in 8300. Re-using NSH instead of mimic it in each individual transport protocol is much more pragmatic. It avoi

Re: [spring] [mpls] [sfc] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

2018-03-20 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Jim, You said that you “simply need SR to realize the chain”, but actually if you want a path to be steered relying upon some information conveyed in the packet and to invoke specific SFs, then you need to define the structure of such information and its meaning. That is another piece of speci

Re: [spring] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

2018-03-20 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Avinash, But these various encapsulation options (VXLAN, IP-in-IP,..) are already there thanks to the transport-agnostic approach endorsed by the SFC WG. An alternative approach would be to mimic NSH for each of the mechanisms you listed. That approach is suboptimal, IMO. FWIW, we used to

Re: [spring] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

2018-03-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, This is really a matter of taste. Jim, whatever scheme we use for identifying service chains, there are requirements/constraints/new practices/new OAM procedures that need to be supported/honored for service chaining purposes. Those are not simple nor complex in MPLS vs. NSH over MPLS. I’

Re: [spring] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

2018-03-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, I’m afraid that you cannot ‘simply’ re-use MPLS for chaining purposes without any code upgrade. NSH does provide the simple functionality you need; that is the information to identify a chain + avoid infinite loops. This is known as: MD Type 0x2 with length is 0x2. Of course you can enc

Re: [spring] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

2018-03-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Jim, Perhaps I missed your point, but I’m not asking to disallow whatever transport encapsulation scheme deployed in a network for SFC purposes. What I’m saying is: * the IETF has defined a generic SFC architecture and went with a transport-agnostic approach that can be deployed in conjuncti

Re: [spring] [sfc] [mpls] Progress with draft-farrel-mpls-sfc

2018-03-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi all, Wim has a point here. For all these proposals, a new behavior is needed to be followed by SFC-aware nodes. What differs is the channel used to signal a chain and to supply additional data for SFC purposes. Leveraging on existing code/capabilities is good for a vendor/implementer, bu