Re: water storage tank: 300,000 gallon size: failure: FL not NY

2012-11-16 Thread Bruce Verhei
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Re: water storage tank: 300,000 gallon size: failure: FL not NY

2012-11-16 Thread bcasterline
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Re: water storage tank: 300,000 gallon size: failure: FL not NY

2012-11-16 Thread bcasterline
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Re: water storage tank: 300,000 gallon size: failure: FL not NY

2012-11-16 Thread Kenneth Berman
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Re: water storage tank: 300,000 gallon size: failure: FL not NY

2012-11-16 Thread Ron Greenman
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Re: water storage tank: 300,000 gallon size: failure: FL not NY

2012-11-16 Thread Ron Greenman
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2012-11-16 Thread Brad Casterline
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RE: Standpipe Calc

2012-11-16 Thread Jim Davidson
Ron, All of that information should have been clearly defined and addressed in the specifications and on the drawings. The sprinkler contractor should not have to dig through a mountain of paperwork to get an answer that should have been clearly defined in the contract documents. The wording in th

RE: Standpipe Calc

2012-11-16 Thread Jim Davidson
If the EP Engineer on this project wants to "back charge" the contractor because the FP engineer did not define the scope of work correctly then the contractor should call the following, and note that the FPE has not defined the scope of work correctly and if what the FPE shows does not comply with

RE: Standpipe Calc

2012-11-16 Thread RFletcher
Yes, except for the basement. It says the basement is one area but it is also not a full basement and is much smaller than the first floor, if that matters at all. We are trying to obtain a copy of the life safety report, maybe this has all been addressed? Ron Fletcher Aero Phoenix -Origin

RE: Standpipe Calc

2012-11-16 Thread Ed Kramer
Anything on the architect's 'building code analysis' sheet that indicates the addition is a separate building from the existing? Ed Kramer Lawrence, KS > -Original Message- > From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum- > boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of r

Re: Standpipe Calc

2012-11-16 Thread Johnson, Duane (NIH/OD/ORS) [C]
7.5.1 doesn't say systems because it should be a single system. A.7.5 mentions systems on the same water supply but in different bldgs. I would still submit an RFI to get their design intent in writing. - Original Message - From: rfletc...@aerofire.com [mailto:rfletc...@aerofire.com] S

RE: Standpipe Calc

2012-11-16 Thread RFletcher
There is a rated wall with horizontal exits separating the addition from the existing on two floors. A nationally known FP consultant did a one line drawing of the SP system in the addition and specified a 750 gpm pump. They didn't show hose valves on either side of the horizontal exits and didn

Re: Standpipe Calc

2012-11-16 Thread Johnson, Duane (NIH/OD/ORS) [C]
First, where two or more standpipes are in the same building or section, they shall be interconnected (14:7.5.1). If for whatever reason they don't get interconnected (ie different bldgs or different fire areas), then you could do 500+250 as they would be treated as two systems. See A.7.10.1.1