Re: Sauna Fire protection

2014-03-05 Thread Brad Casterline
Well I'll be go to hell, I finally got a gold star from Teach > On Mar 5, 2014, at 10:19 PM, "rongreenman ." wrote: > > Good boy, Brad. > > No numbers, just code. > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Brad Casterline > wrote: > >> So, based on my definition of a Standard, if the stockpile o

Re: Sauna Fire protection

2014-03-05 Thread rongreenman .
Good boy, Brad. No numbers, just code. On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Brad Casterline wrote: > So, based on my definition of a Standard, if the stockpile of combustibles > does not exceed 8 feet, I would submit Light Hazard, and let the chips fall > where they may. > > > On Mar 5, 2014, at 9:4

Re: Sauna Fire protection

2014-03-05 Thread Brad Casterline
So, based on my definition of a Standard, if the stockpile of combustibles does not exceed 8 feet, I would submit Light Hazard, and let the chips fall where they may. > On Mar 5, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Todd Williams wrote: > > If it is Rankine or Kelvin, it has already gone off. > > > Todd G Wil

Re: Sauna Fire protection

2014-03-05 Thread Todd Williams
If it is Rankine or Kelvin, it has already gone off. Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860-535-2080 www.fpdc.com > On Mar 5, 2014, at 9:13 PM, John Denhardt > wrote: > > Is that Fahrenheit or Celsius? > > Or for the Terps types - Rankine or Kelvin. > >

Re: Modifying sprinklers

2014-03-05 Thread Forest Wilson
When I worked for FE Moran, Special Hazards Div. this was standard procedure. On 3/5/2014 12:27 PM, Richard Mote wrote: Use to do it all the time, "Automatic" used to make a standard spray pendent and upright with a glass strut thru a metal tag with a hole in it. After we pressure tested

Re: Sauna Fire protection

2014-03-05 Thread Brad Casterline
This is a no-brainier Craig: >From NFPA 13 (any modern edition, 5.2 and 5.3, if the quantity and/or >combustibility of the contents is low and fires with relatively low rates of >heat release are expected, it is L.H. If the combustibility is low, quantity of combustibles is moderate, stockpiles

Re: Sauna Fire protection

2014-03-05 Thread John Denhardt
Is that Fahrenheit or Celsius? Or for the Terps types - Rankine or Kelvin. Thanks, John August Denhardt P.E. > On Mar 5, 2014, at 9:09 PM, "rongreenman ." wrote: > > So many things to say: > > It's he TEA Party head. > > I interpolated a temperature. > > If Suzy has a 286 degree head and s

Re: Sauna Fire protection

2014-03-05 Thread rongreenman .
So many things to say: It's he TEA Party head. I interpolated a temperature. If Suzy has a 286 degree head and she gives 30 degrees to Billy how many degrees does she have left? Let your fingers do the stumbling. Roland wrote that. On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Todd Williams wrote: > 256

Re: Sauna Fire protection

2014-03-05 Thread Todd Williams
256 degree head? Is that a 286 degree head after budget cuts? Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860-535-2080 www.fpdc.com > On Mar 5, 2014, at 8:34 PM, "rongreenman ." wrote: > > Depends. What's the rest of the building? If in a residence then What > abou

Re: Sauna Fire protection

2014-03-05 Thread rongreenman .
Depends. What's the rest of the building? If in a residence then What about in a hotel versus in a gym. Dry sauna is a lot like a mini fur vault. Wet sauna more like a swimming pool or hot tub room. The biggest danger statistically is people getting hurt slipping and falling, after an unwanted

Re: Sauna Fire protection

2014-03-05 Thread Todd - Work
I would probably consider it OH1 but the ones I'm used wouldn't require more than 1 or 2 sprinklers so I never got too concerned about it Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT www.fpdc.com 860-535-2080 (ofc) > On Mar 5, 2014, at 7:06 PM, "Craig Leadbetter" > wrot

Sauna Fire protection

2014-03-05 Thread Craig Leadbetter
What hazard would you classify a Sauna? Light or Ordinary Hazard? Craig Leadbetter Safeguard of Marquette PO Box 116 Marquette, MI 49855 (P) 906-475-9955 (F) 906-475-5474 (C) 906-362-5393 ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.fir

ESFR Under Solid Catwalk

2014-03-05 Thread Jay White
Anyone ever installed ESFR sprinklers under solid catwalks. I know 8.12.5 addresses the issue. Is it considered a in rack sprinkler? Is it fed from a separate riser, and does it have to be balanced with the overhead system? Jay White Dynamic Fire Protection 9771 Highway 25 South Starkville,

RE: Modifying sprinklers

2014-03-05 Thread Richard Mote
Use to do it all the time, "Automatic" used to make a standard spray pendent and upright with a glass strut thru a metal tag with a hole in it. After we pressure tested you could walk through the job with a long pole with a hook on it and pull out the struts. Richard L. Mote Rowe Sprinkler Sys

RE: Modifying sprinklers

2014-03-05 Thread Craig.Prahl
OK, thanks for all the input. We will now return to our regularly scheduled program... Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Group Lead CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive Spartanburg, SCĀ  29303 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 CH2MHILL Extension

Re: Modifying sprinklers

2014-03-05 Thread rongreenman .
Standard practice in many cases. You use standard spray which aren't listed for a particular application. What would you use in an EH that just required sprinklers? If I can get the a system to calc through 1/2" closed sprinklers at the necessary density I can use them. What's the difference? In so

RE: Modifying sprinklers

2014-03-05 Thread John Denhardt
Agree - It is the way I have been taught to do it. -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of rfletc...@aerofire.com Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 9:57 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firespri

RE: Modifying sprinklers

2014-03-05 Thread RFletcher
It's done all the time. Do the hydro test then knock out the links. Ron F -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of craig.pr...@ch2m.com Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:25 AM To: sprinkle

Modifying sprinklers

2014-03-05 Thread Craig.Prahl
Received a shop drawing stating that for the deluge system, the contractor would purchase standard fused sprinklers and remove the fusible link. Now I can't find specific NFPA verbiage that would prohibit this but seems to me that a sprinkler that is listed for LH or OH occupancies would not be