[Sprinklerforum] Re: plans and specifications vs design build

2022-11-18 Thread Ron Greenman
wn/Architect, but they a slow > to respond. > > > > Luckily, this is a one off and we don’t normally have this much trouble. > > > > Regards, > > Steven > > > > *From:* Kyle.Montgomery > *Sent:* Friday, November 18, 2022 12:27 PM > *To:* Discussi

[Sprinklerforum] Re: plans and specifications vs design build

2022-11-17 Thread Matthew J Willis
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 2:05 PM To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: plans and specifications vs design build This should be cut and dry. The engineer is just in damage control mode. The fact is EVERYONE was bidding off

[Sprinklerforum] Re: plans and specifications vs design build

2022-11-17 Thread J H
rshal >> and have them kick it back due to lack of safety margin… we might still go >> this route. >> >> >> >> Thank you for your help! >> >> >> >> Steven >> >> >> >> *From:* Brett Peters >> *Sent:* Thursday, Novemb

[Sprinklerforum] Re: plans and specifications vs design build

2022-11-17 Thread Brett Peters
; *To:* Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers < > sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> > *Subject:* [Sprinklerforum] Re: plans and specifications vs design build > > > > We always put a note in our quotes that our pricing is based on an > ad

[Sprinklerforum] Re: plans and specifications vs design build

2022-11-17 Thread Fpdcdesign
As a rule of thumb, if I don’t see nodes or a specific calculation note, I assume the engineer is pulling pipe sizes out of his butt. Most engineers have no idea if there is enough water to do what they ask for. > > On Nov 17, 2022 at 10:40 AM, mailt

[Sprinklerforum] Re: plans and specifications vs design build

2022-11-17 Thread Steve Mackinnon
… we might still go this route. Thank you for your help! Steven From: Brett Peters Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 11:24 AM To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: plans and specifications vs design build We always put a note in our

[Sprinklerforum] Re: plans and specifications vs design build

2022-11-17 Thread Steve Mackinnon
ng to automatic fire sprinklers' Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: plans and specifications vs design build Steve, You didn’t say if a contract has been signed. If you have not signed any documents or contracts then walk away from the project. Have you discussed this project with your company

[Sprinklerforum] Re: plans and specifications vs design build

2022-11-17 Thread Steve Mackinnon
, November 17, 2022 11:20 AM To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: plans and specifications vs design build If the engineer had no idea how to layout out a system and size pipe, he shouldn’t have done it at all. Now if his goal was to be

[Sprinklerforum] Re: plans and specifications vs design build

2022-11-17 Thread Brett Peters
We always put a note in our quotes that our pricing is based on an adequate water supply, if the water supply won't support the pipe sizing the engineer put on the tender drawings then ask for a change to contract based on the water supply from the water purveyor being inadequate to support tender

[Sprinklerforum] Re: plans and specifications vs design build

2022-11-17 Thread Prahl, Craig
If the engineer had no idea how to layout out a system and size pipe, he shouldn’t have done it at all. Now if his goal was to be sure there was space allocated for the sprinkler system, for example he was part of a REVIT project, he should have stated that sizes were preliminary and subject t

[Sprinklerforum] Re: plans and specifications vs design build

2022-11-17 Thread tstone52
Steve, You didn’t say if a contract has been signed. If you have not signed any documents or contracts then walk away from the project. Have you discussed this project with your company Insurance provider? Regards, G. Tim Stone G. Tim Stone Consulting, LLC NICET Level III Engineering