13R - Are sprinklers required in elevator shafts?

2012-06-01 Thread Cory Power
I know 13R states they arent required, but what if the bottom floor where access is provided to the elevator is installed as per 13 and the rest of the building is installed as per 13R? ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org h

RE: Elevator Shafts

2010-10-08 Thread Craig.Prahl
sprinkler.org Subject: RE: Elevator Shafts I understand all of that, however the fact is that ASME A17.1 requires "non-combustible" shaft and passenger car, unless I am mistaken. So if the shaft and car are IAW ASME then it should be considered non-combustible, correct? Thanks, E

Re: Elevator Shafts

2010-10-08 Thread John Drucker
26:40 2010 Subject: RE: Elevator Shafts I understand all of that, however the fact is that ASME A17.1 requires "non-combustible" shaft and passenger car, unless I am mistaken. So if the shaft and car are IAW ASME then it should be considered non-combustible, correct? Thanks, Eric Tysinge

RE: Elevator Shafts

2010-10-08 Thread Eric Tysinger
nt: Friday, October 08, 2010 10:16 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Elevator Shafts Just because there is sheetrock on the wood framing doesn't mean the shaft is considered non-combustible and automatically meets the required resistance rating as required by the code. U

RE: Elevator Shafts

2010-10-08 Thread Craig.Prahl
because the elevator shaft is > framed with wood, as is the rest of the building (type 5b) that it is > considered a combustible shaft. The shaft is also 2-hour rated. The > shaft and car are manufactured and installed IAW ASME A17.1. When 13R > (2010 ed) references combustible elevator

Re: Elevator Shafts

2010-10-08 Thread Tom Wellen
"or limited combustible" was added to NFPA 13 in the 2010 edition so that paper covered gypsum would be allowed in elevator shafts and still omit the sprinkler. NFPA 13R is a little different in that gypsum could be attached to wood studs, making it a combustible shaft. However

Re: Elevator Shafts

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Thurston
ted. The shaft and car are > manufactured and installed IAW ASME A17.1. When 13R (2010 ed) references > combustible elevator shafts, aren't they referring to the exposed surfaces? As > well, ASME A17.1 requires the car and shaft to be non-combustible. I know that > 13R added the "

RE: Elevator Shafts

2010-10-08 Thread Ed Kramer
IAW ASME A17.1. When 13R > (2010 ed) references combustible elevator shafts, aren't they referring > to the exposed surfaces? As well, ASME A17.1 requires the car and shaft > to be non-combustible. I know that 13R added the "combustible" wording > in the 2007 edition a

RE: Elevator Shafts

2010-10-08 Thread rnculver
Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Eric Tysinger Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 9:25 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Elevator Shafts Sorry if this gets posted twice. I sent the first one 1/2

Elevator Shafts

2010-10-08 Thread Eric Tysinger
st of the building (type 5b) that it is considered a combustible shaft. The shaft is also 2-hour rated. The shaft and car are manufactured and installed IAW ASME A17.1. When 13R (2010 ed) references combustible elevator shafts, aren't they referring to the exposed surfaces? As well,